Yeah, heaven forbid smething actually goes right over there, then what are you going to do? But, you know so much that's going on being you're so in touch with the elements, the soldiers, the commanders there. Please, dude. If all of these things ever happened they'd have to put your dumb, ignorant, sorry ass on a 24/7 suicide watch.

What a spineless dopey reply.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for" Ernest Hemingway

"The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many" Spartan King Leonidas

Surge or not, success or not...what are we fighting for(?), the reality of a working Democratic Iraqi Government is far, far away. So they are diddling around with a military surge when they now fully admit they need to be making a diplomatic solution work(?). Yep, 'for us or against' George...'go it alone'... They have not even corrected the problems from the de-Rumsfeld/Chenney de-Baathifacation order which still bites our military in the ass to this day.

I guess the surge was the wrong thing to do? This is a pretty mixed up administration, rather FUBAR at this point in time.

Listen to the report very carefully and the part that says "the administration now says there is not a military solution and now it has to be a political one"...and listen to the comments from Gates just after that, quite sobering indeed. If you surge triple amount they already have it still does not solve the governemtnal problems we had long ago created with a power vacuum produced in Iraq...God help us all we do not come out with too much s*it blown back in our face.

SteveK, the Surge is unsustainable!!!!!, a 135K-160K troops on the ground cannot replace the needed 500K-600K initial requirement of troops that were needed back in 2003. Its too late now. The Iraqi's want us out of their country and there is no military solution to stop the chaotic destabilization we now see in Iraq.

Nothing against our men and women in uniform.....they have performed admirably and bravely since the beginning of this Iraq debacle and quagmire.

Unfortunately, our military has had incompetent failed leadership from the W.H.; who have arrogantly ignored the Generals advice prior to going into Iraq; and who have failed to institute the "POWELL DOCTRINE".

Bush-I, listened to his Generals during Gulf War I and this resulted in an overwhelming victory; b/c HW Bush had enough common sense to adhere to the "POWELL DOCTRINE" and let Gen. Schwartzkopf and Gen. Powell plan, devise and implement the War.

GW Bush foolishly listened to the likes of Rumsfield and Cheney (whose expertise and leadership----(Bush I - did not seek nor need for victory in Gulf War I) who incompetent War planners and strategist!!!!

Collin Powell predicted back in 03, that should Bush go ahead to invade and occupy Iraq.......Bush would inherent the "Pottery Barn Rule" which says you Break-It...You own it. The Bush Admin. will own the FAILURE IN IRAQ.

Looks like Powell (the author of the Powell Doctrine) knew what he was talking about.

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AMERICA LAND OF THE FREE HOME OF THE BRAVE--BECAUSE OF OUR CONSTITUTION.

Your like a broken record, man. Listen and listen carefully because I am so tired of having to repeat the same answers for you:

Ready?


1) IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU SUPPORTED THE WAR OR NOT. WE ARE THERE AND NEED TO DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SUCCEED.

2) UP UNTIL RECENTLY, EVERYONE HAS AGREED THAT THIS WAR HAS BEEN WAGED INEPTLY AT BEST. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ISN'T NEWS - MUCH AS YOU'D LIKE TO THINK SO. THERE ARE SIGNS THAT THE SURGE IS BEGINING TO WORK IN SMALL DOSES. THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN YOU AND ME IS I'M AN AMERICAN FIRST AS COMPARED TO YOU WHO ARE A BUSH BASHER FIRST.


Now that I've laid this out for you yet again do me and those serving a favor: Stop using this pretend concern for the troops because you have nbone for them. In fact, I'll go as so far as to believe that you'd rather see American and coaliation troops die if it means furthering your argument against Bush because that's all this is to you. It's nothing more and nothing less. You have no idea about world events, you have learned nothing from 9/11 (Oh, except that Bush did it for oil right?) or terrorism in general. So, just try to be honest and admit that the deaths of these brave men and women only further your cause. It's not like you any of these people and it's not like you care. Another dead soldier in your mind is another vicotry against bush. You're pathetic and stupid. Really, really stupid. You're like a terrorists wet dream because you're manipulated so easily.

SteveK, I really wonder if the liberals had family over there, if they would want them to quit or win. I have admitted before that Bush has screwed teh pooch on his handeling of the war, but why can Americans at least stand together about the service members fighting there and how the world will view this country if we pull out.

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An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Go Sooners

In the words of Churchill, the time to protest the war is before the first shot is fired. After that it is your obligation to support your country until the fighting is over.

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Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

The man who commanded US-led coalition forces during the first year of the Iraq war says the United States can forget about winning the war.

"I think if we do the right things politically and economically with the right Iraqi leadership we could still salvage at least a stalemate, if you will - not a stalemate but at least stave off defeat," retired Army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez said in an interview.

Sanchez, in his first interview since he retired last year, is the highest-ranking former military leader yet to suggest the Bush administration has fallen short in Iraq.

"I am absolutely convinced that America has a crisis in leadership at this time," Sanchez told AFP after a recent speech in San Antonio, Texas.

"We've got to do whatever we can to help the next generation of leaders do better than we have done over the past five years, better than what this cohort of political and military leaders have done,"

Sanchez called the situation in Iraq bleak, which he blamed on "the abysmal performance in the early stages and the transition of sovereignty."

He included himself among those who erred in Iraq's crucial first year after the toppling of the Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Sanchez took command in the summer of 2003 and oversaw the occupation force amid an insurgency that has sparked a low-grade civil war in Iraq.

He was in the middle of some of the most momentous events of the war, among them the dissolution of the Iraqi army and barring millions of Baath Party members from government jobs: two actions seen as triggering the rebellion among Sunni Muslims, who fell from power with Saddam.

Sanchez is also most closely identified with the Abu Ghraib scandal, which occurred on his watch.

Though he was cleared of wrongdoing by an Army probe, Abu Ghraib's images of naked prisoners humiliated by a rogue torture squad cost Sanchez an almost certain fourth star in the Senate, which approves general officer promotions.

Sanchez, 56, declined to talk about Abu Ghraib or other key events of the war, or say who was to blame for what went wrong.

"That's something I am still struggling with and it's not about blame because there's nobody out there that is intentionally trying to screw things up for our country," he said. "They were all working to do the best damn job they can to get things right."

Despite those good intentions, Americans will be forced to "answer the question what is victory, and at this point I'm not sure America really knows what victory is," said Sanchez, who is thinking of writing a tell-all book about his year in Baghdad

Hey Karen
Do you have organisms everytime an American soldier is killed in Iraq? Do you yell out "Yeah, we can blame another one on Bush"?

Do you support the terrorist movement? Do you think it does not exist? If you do think it exist do you think it will only kill conservatives? If we lose in Iraq who do you think will win? Would you rather see us lose just so you can continue to bash Bush?

By the way, wasn't Sanchez the leader in charge during the torture scandal?

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Its better to have fussed and crabbed then never to have fussed at all - Lucy

I think this is what comes out of the womb of the female long after the orgasm, fertilization, pregnancy, and then labor.

She has another baby everytime a soldier is killed?

No matter who much people think spelling does not count...well, it does.