http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198171,00.html


BAGHDAD, Iraq — Skeletons, many wearing clothes and blindfolded, jut out from the desert sands in southwestern Iraq where forensics experts have unearthed at least two mass graves of victims from the brutal suppression of a 1991 Shiite uprising.

The chief investigative judge in Saddam Hussein's trial said they have documented evidence of more than 100,000 victims of the crackdown against Shiites in the wake of the 1991 Gulf War and unofficial accounts showing the number could be as high as 180,000.



So Two more mass graves where found. Total as high as 180,000. But things were great under Saddam right? Even if the accounts of civilian casualties are as high as 40,000 which many claim that number still doesn't equal this. This is all evidence I need to justify our invasion. We eliminated a grave threat to the region.

Another interesting thing about this story....it can't be found easily on MSNBC or CNN.com But there is no media bias? Right....

hello? anyone?

I wonder how long it will take for America to mount up its mass graves of American military.

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Johnny,

Most people (that I know) don't argue the fact that Saddam and his sons are/were very brutal people. I cetainly would not have wanted to live in Iraq during their rule. But I can sum up my reservations for this war in two parts:

1) Helping/saving the Iraqi people from the inhumanity of Saddam Hussein was NOT the primary selling point for this war.....not even close. The Bush Administration pushed this action as a 100-percent absolute necessity for self-defense and preservation. That was, without a doubt, their main selling point to the American people....they played on our fears (in the form of mushroom clouds) to where I would describe it as fear mongering. And people fell for it.

A very relevant question is the following: Had the Administration used the human rights abuses as their main selling point and challenged the American people to do the right thing and help the Iraqi people, would we have still supported the war?

2) I liken bad governments/dictators to cancer. Sometimes the diagnosis is to go in and physically remove the cancer. However, other times doctors decide that immediately removing the cancer may, in the long run, do more harm than good and, instead, opt for more of containment and slowly defeat approach.

This will take several years to determine, but, in the case of Iraq, I wonder if option 2 was the better option.

Sometimes I wonder why we would even bother with giving the Iraqi people democracy when they don't even want it themselves. It has to come from within.

Other times I wonder if the opposition to the war is really just subtle racism seeing as our goals in this war have many parallels with world war II. The Iraqi people aren't white, why should we care. That is the attitude we have when it comes to these sorts of things in Africa.

At the time I really think that the president thought there were WMD's. My main point with this link was to show that things were not peachy under Saddam. I see people post all the time about how under Saddam they Iraq had more oil and more electricty and schools. That is not the case. Yes they had all of those things but the people didn't have unviversal access to them and they were being murdered. I just wanted to remind everyone of that.