GWB, worst President of the century...

Flyhigher · #11 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Clinton only served as President for 20 days in this century, and all that time was used for was pardons. So in essence, Bush has really been the only president on this century, so I guess he is the best also, right?

I know you aren't really that stupid. How about I make it easy for you. President Bush will go down in history as the worst President ever. Simple enough for you?

Flyhigher · #12 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHarshTruth

That was really a good tactic on Bush's part. It keeps all those week kneed people from impeaching him. I hope it becomes standard operating procedure for all future presidents. Of course the democrats are such pussies they won't ever have the courage to do something like it.

It doesn't matter to me what name a politician goes by.
Rep or Dem, it doesn't matter to me. But, GWB is the biggest fuck up in the history of American Presidents...

RASTAMAN · #13 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyhigher

Ok, I know that GWB'S decision to invade Iraq was the worst decision an American President has ever made, and I know he lied to the American people about Saddam's weapons program. I find it hard to believe that American intelligence was that bad in regards to Iraq and it's "WMD'S... I don't think GWB really thought they existed, and the situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate daily... George W. Bush is an embarrassment to the American people and he should be "Impeached..."

People and various forms of print media are starting to at least speak out for impeachment:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0126-02.htm

Deadshot · #14 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 08:17 AM

Of course everyone has jumped on the thing that for this Century Bush could be the "best" or the "worst" since he's really the ONLY President of this Century.

But if you want to say the last 100 years, I posted this a few weeks ago.

1.LAST FAILURE: Herbert Hoover - Legacy = couldn't recover from Depression
2.FDR: Recovered from the Depression - Won WWII
3.Truman: Good - helped win WWII/Marshall plan/Israel/Civil Rights .... BAD: Korean War
4.Ike: Good - Interstate Highways/ Civil Rights/ Created Health and Humans Services as Cabinet Level / Expanded Social Security
5.JFK: Good - Cuban Missle Crisis victory/Civil Rights/Space program/Peace Corps....BAD: Bay of Pigs and Vietnam
6.POSSIBLE FAILURE?? LBJ: Good - Civil Rights/Medicare and Medicaid/ Space Program... BAD: Vietnam
7.POSSIBLE FAILURE?? Nixon: Good - China relations/ School Intergration/ Space Program/ Ended the war... BAD: Watergate and resignation
8.Ford: Good - Nixon Pardon/ Healing the Nation/ Brought confidence back to Government
9.Carter: Good - Camp David Accords/ SALT talks/ Aiding Afghanistan vs. USSR....BAD: Iran Hostage crisis and economic collapse.
10.Reagan: Good - Economic recovery/ Ended Communism....BAD: Iran Contra
11.Bush I: Good - Defeated Iraq/ Stopped Noriega/ Helped Gorbachev....BAD: Nafta? (This is a Lib/Dem talking)
12.Clinton: Good - FMLA/ Don't ask Don't Tell/ Earned Income Tax Credit/ Surplus....BAD: Lied about Blow Job and being a Womanizer.
13.Bush II: Good - Low unemployment/ No Child Left Behind/ Medicare Act of 2003....BAD: Iraq War and Katrina response.

Obviously I left out the Presidency's of Taft, Wilson, Harding and Coolidge. But in general those four got grades of B or higher. But take a close look at the FAILURE and two POSSIBLE FAILURE's.

Hoover is the obvious choice for the failure. In the end NOTHING in his presidency was a positive. FDR, for years, pointed to the Hoover Administration when anything went wrong.

Now look and compare LBJ, Nixon and Bush. LBJ will forever be linked to a war, but one could make an arguement that his social programs evened it out. Nixon will forever be linked to a scandal, but one could make an arguement that his international policies, i.e. China, evened it out.

But Bush is linked to a war AND scandals (Katrina, Plame outing, Wiring tapping), what "good" (i.e. something BOTH sides see as a good) will Bush be linked to? North Korea treaty - nah that's the same policy we've been following for decades - pay them not to make nukes. His Health Care reforms - nah, HC is still a pretty big issue - he didn't fix much.

As a history student I think that whomever the next President is, and Bush better pray for a Republican so it won't be as bad, you're going to see a reversion back to the FDR/Hoover relationship. That is whatever goes bad for Pres. Clinton or McCain or Rudy or Obama, Bush's Administration will be blamed for it for the first two or three years of the new Administration. That leads one to compare Bush to Hoover - Failure to Failure.

Dom1 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyhigher

I know you aren't really that stupid. How about I make it easy for you. President Bush will go down in history as the worst President ever. Simple enough for you?

Stupid? You were the one who didn't know the century started on January 1, 2001. You should thank me for educating you on this.

TheHarshTruth · #16 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

7.POSSIBLE FAILURE?? Nixon: Good - China relations/ School Intergration/ Space Program/ Ended the war... BAD: Watergate and resignation

He ended the war? How about his lying to the public about the war. Telling them exactly what Bush is telling us. That the war is going well. That we are abiding by the laws. Basically lying to the public all of the time to carry on his personal war against the Vietnamese the way he thinks it should be run. Just like Bush.

And he ended the war? No he didn't. No more than Bush will have when he is impeached or leaves office. Sure he'll have some plan layed out saying 2 years down the road we will take our troops out but that's not ending it. Here's what happened with Nixon if you care about details:

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In December 1974, the Democratic majority in Congress passed the Foreign Assistance Act of 1974, which cut off all military funding to the South Vietnamese government and made unenforceable the peace terms negotiated by Nixon. Nixon, threatened with impeachment because of Watergate, had resigned his office. Gerald R. Ford, Nixon's vice-president stepped in to finish his term. The new president vetoed the Foreign Assistance Act, but his veto was overridden by Congress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam...3.E2.80.931975

Ford, that piece of shit, thought he had to bring in the biggest boldest war hawks he could find to scare other countries into thinking America was still strong. Guess who he brought in and started their political careers? The Neocons we now have in office...

Flyhigher · #17 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom1

Stupid? You were the one who didn't know the century started on January 1, 2001. You should thank me for educating you on this.

If you couldn't figure out what I meant, then I can say without a doubt you are stupid... It's Ok, GWB will go down as the worst President ever. America may never fully recover from the Bush era, moreover, GWB has made mistakes that make Nixon look like Mother Teresa...

Dom1 · #18 (**permalink**) 03-05-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyhigher

If you couldn't figure out what I meant, then I can say without a doubt you are stupid... It's Ok, GWB will go down as the worst President ever. America may never fully recover from the Bush era, moreover, GWB has made mistakes that make Nixon look like Mother Teresa...

I have little doubt that you know much about presidential history or our nation's history.

Don't be pissed because I pointed out your error.