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06-25-2006, 02:32 AM
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Japan fought its battles to the death. Read any of the farewell notes,(poems) by some of their more revered Generals who discuss with their children or others how this day will leave them bloody on a battle field or decapitated out of respect. You talk of war as though your own soldiers are ready to die and they are not. They would prefer to survive the days events, this puts you behind the enemy who have nirvana to reach however misguided their belief is. You want to know how to fight, win or understand a war get the view of a peasant who lives in the middle, they will no more than any tactician or expert. The Jews of Palestine, have put on their boots and loaded their weapons, what comes there way is their own doing but we are to blame for it. Following WWII, we allowed them the land that they call Isreal when it wasn't ours to give. Just like the French thinking that Vietnam was theirs, so for two wars we learnt nothing but how to create a war, Sun Tzu could learn from us the "Art Of War".
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06-27-2006, 11:25 PM
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Can anybody provide some qoutes from the book?
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Micheal Hart, contemporary American scientist, ranks the three most influential persons in history in this order: Muhammad,Isaac Newton, and Jesus. Hart places Muhammad at the top of his list of 100 humans because he was "the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels."
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06-27-2006, 11:50 PM
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The principle of the objective
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"No ruler should put troops into the field merely to gratify his own spleen; no general should fight a battle simply out of pique. Anger may in time change to gladness; vexation may be succeeded by content. But a kingdom that has once been destroyed can never come again into being; nor can the dead ever be brought back to life."
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S.O.S. ------ United We Stand, Divided We Fall
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06-28-2006, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
"Violates 17 UN resolutions and doesn't disclose its information to us."
>>>You still believin' that jive? FOTM is, Saddam gave the UN inspectors, the IAEA, the US and the entire world list after list of the materials he had on hand (which turned out to be next to none). Your administration just wouldn't take "no weapons" for an answer.
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intersting. Then why was there a need for 17 resolutions. You are dillusianal my friend
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06-28-2006, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OkhamsRazor
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I like that.
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06-28-2006, 06:40 AM
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A leader does not raise troops twice, niether does he gather food for them three times.
I don't know whether Sun Tzu said this as it was written by a fourteenth century adviser speking to his taisho with reference to Sun Tzu.
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06-28-2006, 06:49 AM
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I have read The art of War, just as I have read Orientalism by the late Said but I am not knowledgable enough to quote them. Sorry that I can't help you there.
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06-28-2006, 10:29 AM
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Tony Soprano read it after Dr Melfi,suggested that it would make him a better crime boss,he used what he learned against Ralphy,that is before he strangled him on Ralphy's kitchen floor,because Ralphy cooked Tony's horse!
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06-28-2006, 11:28 AM
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"Can't have much stealth when the previous administration guts the agency responsible for spying abroad like a fresh hog...."
>>>A better idea is to manufacture intelligence, invade, and blame the resulting screw-up on the previous administration.
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06-28-2006, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by melchizedek22
Tony Soprano read it after Dr Melfi,suggested that it would make him a better crime boss,he used what he learned against Ralphy,that is before he strangled him on Ralphy's kitchen floor,because Ralphy cooked Tony's horse!
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LOL. That was a messed up episode. That was messed up Ralphy did that to the horse just for the insurance money. Then Tony and Christopher sawed his dead body apart in a bathtub. Dont mess with Tony. LOL
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