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01-27-2007, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigher
Given that we have an all- volunteer- military( so that not even the threat of a draft touches other young Americans), you could certainly say that the President's war in Iraq- - - and it;s harm- - - has been disproportionately felt. If you live in a rural area, you are simply far more likely to know a casualty of the war than in most major metropolitian ares in the country. They is still a great number of our young who aren't searching for the bright light of metropolitian, if you will, so this is a worry for me.
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No kidding. In a small rural area everyone knows everyone! In a city everyone keeps to theirselves. This is why. I cant help but notice that you are ignoring me. Thats ok. It shows fear. A quality most liberals have whan speaking to me.
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01-27-2007, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigher
Given that we have an all- volunteer- military( so that not even the threat of a draft touches other young Americans), you could certainly say that the President's war in Iraq- - - and it;s harm- - - has been disproportionately felt. If you live in a rural area, you are simply far more likely to know a casualty of the war than in most major metropolitian ares in the country. They is still a great number of our young who aren't searching for the bright light of metropolitian, if you will, so this is a worry for me.
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That is true, that a disproportionately amount come from rural areas. My arguement would still be that it is from what they are taught at home. I cannot speak from an urban area view, as I was raised in small town, rural America. My friends, my kids' friends are typical red-neck, farmer joes. They still believe in the RED/WHITE/BLUE. They still believe that this is the greatest country ever, and that it is worth defending. They may not support the President or his decisions regarding Iraq, but they do support their country, and part of that support is joining the military.
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01-27-2007, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
That is true, that a disproportionately amount come from rural areas. My arguement would still be that it is from what they are taught at home. I cannot speak from an urban area view, as I was raised in small town, rural America. My friends, my kids' friends are typical red-neck, farmer joes. They still believe in the RED/WHITE/BLUE. They still believe that this is the greatest country ever, and that it is worth defending. They may not support the President or his decisions regarding Iraq, but they do support their country, and part of that support is joining the military.
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You need to remember that in a small rural area everyone knows each other. So ofcourse they are going to hear about deaths in iraq of people they know. In a city everyone keeps to themselves and their is no trust. They are less likely to be affected in this manner.
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01-27-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigher
We know that soldiers from rural America are dying at higher rates than those from urban America, strikingly
higher, 60 percent higher. We know, from other research, that the rural young join the military at higher rates than those from metropolitan areas. The dearth of opportunity in rural areas simply leaves more young people there with fewer alternatives to the military.
Is this good or bad? You tell me what you think.
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01-27-2007, 12:12 PM
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Smitty; a prime example of those joining combat arms would be Tillman. God bless him.
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01-27-2007, 01:13 PM
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Smitty; a prime example of those joining combat arms would be Tillman. God bless him.
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Pat Tillman enlisted after 9/11 to fight Al-qaida. Although he spent a tour with the Army Rangers in Iraq, he was against the Iraq war, and did not care for President Bush. One could not consider his options limited either. However, I for one, am very proud of his service to his country, and the choices he made.
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01-27-2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
Pat Tillman enlisted after 9/11 to fight Al-qaida. Although he spent a tour with the Army Rangers in Iraq, he was against the Iraq war, and did not care for President Bush. One could not consider his options limited either. However, I for one, am very proud of his service to his country, and the choices he made.
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Tillman fought in Afghanistan not Iraq. He was killed by friendly fire. His brother Kevin Tillman critisized the war not Pat Tillman.
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01-27-2007, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
Pat Tillman enlisted after 9/11 to fight Al-qaida. Although he spent a tour with the Army Rangers in Iraq, he was against the Iraq war, and did not care for President Bush. One could not consider his options limited either. However, I for one, am very proud of his service to his country, and the choices he made.
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Hey man not everyone who supports this war is has to be a Bush fan, I know I am not...But it is besides the point.
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01-27-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty0311
Tillman fought in Afghanistan not Iraq. He was killed by friendly fire. His brother Kevin Tillman critisized the war not Pat Tillman.
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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGD7ETMNM1.DTL
Pat Tillman first served a tour and was part of the initial invasion of Iraq. He then was sent to Afghanistan. He was, indeed, killed by friendly fire, which is still under investigation. He was against the Iraq war and did not like Bush.
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01-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NGD7ETMNM1.DTL
Pat Tillman first served a tour and was part of the initial invasion of Iraq. He then was sent to Afghanistan. He was, indeed, killed by friendly fire, which is still under investigation. He was against the Iraq war and did not like Bush.
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Well thanks for the education and Im wrong but where did it say he was agensts the war in iraq. It really doesent matter but I would like to know.
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