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Old 01-26-2007, 01:33 AM
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You.... have.... GOT to be kidding me...

Bush seeks funds to counter Taliban
By Nicholas Kralev
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 26, 2007



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The Bush administration will ask Congress for $10.6 billion next month for Afghanistan's reconstruction and to beef up the country's security forces to counter recent Taliban gains, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday.
Can't get it for Iraq, may as well try for Afghanistan. Same old story, same old song and dance, just a different dance floor. Taliban Gains?... Aren't those the guys the Bushies have been crowing about freeing Afghanistan from? (Don't answer that, rhetorical question) Gains? HEY! you right wing assh0les said we were winning! If not in Iraq, then at least in Afghan. Besides, weren't we there to get Osama? Anyone remember that guy? Anyone? ... no, not that guy... That's Obama..... no I'm talking about bin Laden.

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In addition, the Pentagon announced yesterday that it would extend the tours of 3,200 soldiers in Afghanistan. The troops from the 3rd Brigade, 10th Mountain Division, were expecting to complete a one-year deployment next month, but their tour of duty had been extended by up to 120 days.
The extension means there will be about 2,500 more soldiers in Afghanistan than planned for the next few months.
LMAO.... oh yeah, that'll help! Ummm.... we've been at this for wow long now? Anyone see anything wrong with the math in that paragraph? ...extending 3200... but only providing a boost of 2500... that tells me they have been drawing down... doesn't it?

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She said $8.6 billion would be used for training and equipping Afghan police and security forces. The money would also help to increase the Afghan army by 70,000 soldiers and police forces by 82,000, a senior U.S. official said.
Are there 70,000 people in the whole country that DON"T wanna kill us for being there? And oh DAMN, we've done such a fantastic job of this type of recruitment and training in Iraq.

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The remaining $2 billion would go to building roads, an electricity grid and other infrastructure, as well as counternarcotics operations, said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack
First of all, WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS?!?!?! I bet if you switched the last two figures around, the Afghan people would be much happier with us.

"We've failed miserably in two different countries, so please, please, give us more money so we can fail a little longer" After all, it's great for the military-industrial complex (our friends in high places). What?! which would you rather have? Capitalism or peace... ?

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They said the White House had realized that an "adjustment in strategy" was urgently needed if Afghanistan was going to be the success the United States wants it to be, and a broad interagency review was conducted in the past several months.
Ya think? Holey Sweaters Batman... you may be on to something. and it only took that Bat-puter FIVE FRIGGEN YEARS TO FIGURE OUT!!!

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"There was a feeling that we were incrementally making progress, but that, given the kind of insurgency threat we faced last year, maybe that wasn't enough, that what we needed to do was make significant progress across the board," Richard Boucher, assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian affairs, said yesterday in Brussels.
OMG... YA THINK!! Ya... significant progress across the board. I'm just curious, what was the plan before? Oh yeah... to make incremental progress. *throws hands in air* *shakes head sadly*

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Mr. Boucher said the "significant funding," a decision to keep more troops in Afghanistan, as well as other steps by the United States and NATO were meant to disrupt Taliban's plans for the winter.
Disrupt their plans for the winter? You mean like.. cancel their plane tickets so they can't winter in the tropics? Disrupt? I thought this administration was tough enough to obliterate a third world country's opposition, coupla big Texans at the wheel and all. Now we're finding out from them that incremental steps and disruption have been the order of the day for some time now. Huh.... who woulda guessed? I'll tell ya who... HALF THE FRIGGEN COUNTRY AND ohhhhh, THE REST OF THE WORLD!

And you asshole apologists had the nerve to tell those of us that stood up and said EXACTLY what the admin is saying now, that we were unpatriotic, unAmerican, trying to destroy America...

BULLSHIT!!! we saw the writing on the wall a long time ago. It was pretty DAMN CLEAR. Kinda hard to miss. We tried to tell you because we love our country, we wanted to save lives of our wonderful volunteer soldiers, save our treasury, and remake part of the military for surgical strike operations to TRULY attack the men responsible for attacking us.

But no, you all had to listen to those jack ass media mouths that get paid millions a year to whip you into a froth, instead of your fellow American who has nothing to gain but a better hope of peace and prosperity. You willfully attacked (and still do) your countrymen to parrot the schlock "wisdom" (*cough*) from overpaid entertainers and power abusing politicians (which are most).

Look, it's just this simple... A citizenry is most at risk of fostering a rogue government when it is divided amongst itself. It's plain self destructive. What amazes me is that some of your ilk delight in supporting and perpetuating this type of behavior.

And those that do so... those that cry Anti-American or bent on destruction of our republic or socialist/communist or fascist/warmongers or pledge such blind allegiance to an idea, man, policy, as to allow yourself to be divided from your neighbor or any of the other casual uses of VERY serious allegations... are in my humble opinion...

... the most unpatriotic of all
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:47 AM
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Is this over and above the 70 billion he has already requested for combined Iraq/Afghanistan efforts?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020202633.html
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Old 01-26-2007, 02:08 AM
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I heard this story tonight and just shook my head...he even promised the administration would be 'good little boys and girls' and not re-direct this $ to Iraq...gimme a break...
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Is this over and above the 70 billion he has already requested for combined Iraq/Afghanistan efforts?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020202633.html
That would appear to be the case, yes. I'll have to try to run down the actual funding measures to be sure.
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Again how we took our focus off Afghanistan and the invasion of iraq...I just cannot get past that.Now more money...did you know we have missing millions in Afghanistan as well as Iraq?
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Maybe Bush is trying to help out NATO.
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KABUL, Afghanistan - A NATO airstrike destroyed a Taliban command post in southern Afghanistan, killing a suspected senior militant leader, the alliance said Friday, while 10 rebel fighters died in a clash with police in the east.

An undisclosed number of the militant leader's deputies also were killed in Thursday's airstrike in Musa Qala district of southern Helmand province, a NATO statement said. It did not disclose the name of the leader killed.

Later Friday, a suicide bomber blew himself up outside the offices of an aid group in the capital of Helmand province, Lashkar Gah. A policeman and two civilians were wounded, police said.

NATO has claimed a string of successes against Taliban leaders _ including the killing last month of a top lieutenant of the militia's fugitive chief, Mullah Omar _ after a year of bitter fighting that has left thousands dead.

The airstrike happened outside the town of Musa Qala, where a deal signed between local elders and the Helmand governor, with the support of the British task force based in the province, turned over security responsibilities to local leaders. The deal also prevents NATO-led troops from entering the town.

Before the deal, which has been criticized by some Western officials as putting the area outside government control, the town was a center of fierce clashes between the British troops and resurgent Taliban militants.

NATO said the airstrike did not violate the pact.

"This successful airstrike took place in the vicinity of Musa Qala but was outside of the area of the agreement between the government of Afghanistan ... and local elders," the NATO statement said.

In eastern Afghanistan, Afghan border police clashed with suspected militants in Gomal district in Paktika province on Thursday, leaving 10 suspected Taliban and one police dead, said Ghammai Mohammadi, spokesman for the province's governor.

Five policemen and 15 militants also were wounded in the clash, which happened close to the Pakistan border.

Ghammai said that the militants took the dead and wounded across the border into Pakistan. His claims could not be verified.

In southern Kandahar province, two gunmen on a motorbike fatally shot the chief of criminal department of police of Panjwayi district on Thursday, said Mohammad Akbar Khan, a police official.

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Maybe Bush is trying to help out NATO.
I think he's hoping for the reverse. He is going to NATO to beg for more supprt and money. Oh, and everything in your list falls under "incremental steps" that the Bushies now admits, failed.
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Like i have always said. The liberals have no plan for iraq or the war on terror. Their only plan is to oppose bushes plan. This is not a plan at all. Here they go again!
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Like i have always said. The liberals have no plan for iraq or the war on terror. Their only plan is to oppose bushes plan. This is not a plan at all. Here they go again!
And as I have always said...you guys on the right consider it a 'no plan' because you don't like it. The classic 'fallacy of omission' Smit.
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And as I have always said...you guys on the right consider it a 'no plan' because you don't like it. The classic 'fallacy of omission' Smit.
Can you show me a single plan supported by the democrats? Nope Im afraid not.
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