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01-23-2007, 11:47 PM
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A Young marine speaks Out
The sad fact of the matter is that we are not fighting terrorists in Iraq. We are fighting the Iraqi people who feel like a conquered and occupied people. Personally I have a hard time believing that if I was an Iraqi that I wouldn't be doing everything in my power to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. I know that the vast majority of Americans would not be happy with the Canadian government, or any other foreign government, liberating us from the clutches of George W. Bush, even though a large number of us would like that, and forcing us to accept their system of government. Would not millions of Americans rise up and fight back? Would you not rise up to protect and defend your house and your neighborhood if someone invaded your country? But we send thousands of troops to a foreign country to do just that. How is it moral to fight a people who are just trying to defend their homes and families? I think next time I go to Iraq perhaps I should wear a bright red coat and carry a Brown Bess instead of my digitalized utilities and M16
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/martin-p1.html.
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01-23-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
The sad fact of the matter is that we are not fighting terrorists in Iraq. We are fighting the Iraqi people who feel like a conquered and occupied people. Personally I have a hard time believing that if I was an Iraqi that I wouldn't be doing everything in my power to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. I know that the vast majority of Americans would not be happy with the Canadian government, or any other foreign government, liberating us from the clutches of George W. Bush, even though a large number of us would like that, and forcing us to accept their system of government. Would not millions of Americans rise up and fight back? Would you not rise up to protect and defend your house and your neighborhood if someone invaded your country? But we send thousands of troops to a foreign country to do just that. How is it moral to fight a people who are just trying to defend their homes and families? I think next time I go to Iraq perhaps I should wear a bright red coat and carry a Brown Bess instead of my digitalized utilities and M16
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/martin-p1.html.
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OK you go to an ANTI WAR site and find these few people who bitch about iraq in the marines. I would love to ask him why he believes the iraqi people would think this way. What have we done to them in his opinion to justify his opinion. Furthermore im sure he is serving in the head quarters unit of his company because no one trusts him to watch their back. There is nothing that i have seen in iraq that supports his arguement. Im going to show this site to my fellow marines tomarrow. They will get a laugh out of it.
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01-23-2007, 11:58 PM
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i think the same thoughts as that guy
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01-23-2007, 11:59 PM
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01-24-2007, 12:10 AM
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An retired lt gen who dissaproves of invading iraq doesent make much of an arguement because of all these liberals and conservatives who voted for it. Here it is!
Allard, Wayne (R-CO)
Allen, George (R-VA)
Baucus, Max (D-MT)
Bayh, Evan (D-IN)
Bennett, Robert (R-UT)
Biden, Joseph (D-DE)
Bond, Christopher (R-MO)
Breaux, John (D-LA)
Brownback, Sam (R-KS)
Bunning, Jim (R-KY)
Burns, Conrad (R-MT)
Campbell, Ben (R-CO)
Cantwell, Maria (D-WA)
Carnahan, Jean (D-MO)
Carper, Thomas (D-DE)
Cleland, Max (D-GA)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Cochran, Thad (R-MS)
Collins, Susan (R-ME)
Craig, Larry (R-ID)
Crapo, Michael (R-ID)
Daschle, Tom (D-SD)
DeWine, Mike (R-OH)
Dodd, Christopher (D-CT)
Domenici, Pete (R-NM)
Dorgan, Byron (D-ND)
Edwards, John (D-NC)
Ensign, John (R-NV)
Enzi, Michael (R-WY)
Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA)
Fitzgerald, Peter (R-IL)
Frist, Bill (R-TN)
Gramm, Phil (R-TX)
Grassley, Chuck (R-IA)
Gregg, Judd (R-NH)
Hagel, Chuck (R-NE)
Harkin, Tom (D-IA)
Hatch, Orrin (R-UT)
Helms, Jesse (R-NC)
Hollings, Ernest (D-SC)
Hutchinson, Tim (R-AR)
Hutchison, Kay (R-TX)
Inhofe, James (R-OK)
Johnson, Tim (D-SD)
Kerry, John (D-MA)
Kohl, Herb (D-WI)
Kyl, Jon (R-AZ)
Landrieu, Mary (D-LA)
Lieberman, Joseph (D-CT)
Lincoln, Blanche (D-AR)
Lott, Trent (R-MS)
Lugar, Richard (R-IN)
McCain, John (R-AZ)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Miller, Zell (D-GA)
Murkowski, Lisa (R-AK)
Nelson, Bill (D-FL)
Nelson, Ben (D-NE)
Nickles, Don (R-OK)
Reid, Harry (D-NV)
Roberts, Pat (R-KS)
Rockefeller, John (D-WV)
Santorum, Rick (R-PA)
Schumer, Charles (D-NY)
Sessions, Jeff (R-AL)
Shelby, Richard (R-AL)
Smith, Robert (R-NH)
Smith, Gordon (R-OR)
Snowe, Olympia (R-ME)
Specter, Arlen (R-PA)
Stevens, Ted (R-AK)
Thomas, Craig (R-WY)
Thompson, Fred (R-TN)
Thurmond, Strom (R-SC)
Torricelli, Robert (D-NJ)
Voinovich, George (R-OH)
Warner, John (R-VA
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01-24-2007, 01:05 AM
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what is your source, mr. what-is-your-source?
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01-24-2007, 12:09 PM
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I posted every member of the sinate who voted for military action in iraq. This information is obvious and avalable to everyone.
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01-24-2007, 12:35 PM
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we have a youn marine that speaks out on this board every day. And you libbs throw his opinion to the side........
shamefull even for you sam
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01-24-2007, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gixaholic
we have a youn marine that speaks out on this board every day. And you libbs throw his opinion to the side........
shamefull even for you sam
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Pot meet Kettle, Kettle meet pot. Gix how can you slam Sam for her attitude, and others (Hell, I don't believe Smitty's even a Marine) for their treatment of a Marine here on the board, when Smitty is slamming her for bringing up another Marines POV?
Sams just showing you another viewpoint from another Marine. Why is Smitty's viewpoint valid, where the Marine, Sam linked to is not. Could it be because Smitty's on your side and the other person is on Sams?
C'mon Gix, if Sam should be ashamed, and I don't think she should, so should you.
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01-24-2007, 12:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadshot
Pot meet Kettle, Kettle meet pot. Gix how can you slam Sam for her attitude, and others (Hell, I don't believe Smitty's even a Marine) for their treatment of a Marine here on the board, when Smitty is slamming her for bringing up another Marines POV?
Sams just showing you another viewpoint from another Marine. Why is Smitty's viewpoint valid, where the Marine, Sam linked to is not. Could it be because Smitty's on your side and the other person is on Sams?
C'mon Gix, if Sam should be ashamed, and I don't think she should, so should you.
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you are alone in your belief. ive proven the most stubborn of disbelievers. Lady is an example of this.
Last edited by Smitty0311; 01-24-2007 at 12:51 PM.
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