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01-23-2007, 10:56 PM
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Muslim Killing Muslim!
Radical Islam, what in the hell does this really mean?
Does it mean that a young man 18 years of age can blow himself up in the middle of a crowded market killing a number of women and children. And might I remind you, muslims. Does it mean when a child is born the mother and father are so happy because that child will someday become a martyr and kill many innocent people?
What in the hell are we doing in Iraq? Radicals are never going to stop being Radical. I would like to change course and give another example of Radical. In America the prisons are full of our own type of Radicals. People who commit murder, rape, armed robbery and the list goes on.
90 percent of these crimes are committed by people with very little education. So, would education help our country improve it's crime rate? Maybe, but Radicals like Muslims, even the educated people blow themselves up!
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01-23-2007, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigher
Radical Islam, what in the hell does this really mean?
Does it mean that a young man 18 years of age can blow himself up in the middle of a crowded market killing a number of women and children. And might I remind you, muslims. Does it mean when a child is born the mother and father are so happy because that child will someday become a martyr and kill many innocent people?
What in the hell are we doing in Iraq? Radicals are never going to stop being Radical. I would like to change course and give another example of Radical. In America the prisons are full of our own type of Radicals. People who commit murder, rape, armed robbery and the list goes on.
90 percent of these crimes are committed by people with very little education. So, would education help our country improve it's crime rate? Maybe, but Radicals like Muslims, even the educated people blow themselves up!
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We are in iraq because the presedent as well as congress supported the invasion. Next question plz. What do you know about islamic extreamists? Have you ever seen a terrorists run a car full of explosives into an armered vehicle? How can you compair this to american prisoners. Would you rather submit to these terrorists. It is obvious that you want to show them that we can be beat. You are an extreamist. You support the cause of these terrorists by preaching retreat dispite the outcome.
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01-24-2007, 01:02 AM
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many believe the outcome of a retreat would yield countless saved lives
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01-24-2007, 12:10 PM
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I would like to hear how.
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01-24-2007, 12:11 PM
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I would like to hear how. pulling out only benifits terror
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01-24-2007, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by hexum
many believe the outcome of a retreat would yield countless saved lives
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This is clearly a falshood.... If we left iraq the country would fall into cival war.. Countless will be murdered for the fight for control and power. Civilians casualties which we as an armed force are respectfully considerd in action we take will not be the thinking they would use.....
Death would rain supreme unitl an ultimate winner a few years down the line apears victoriois.
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01-24-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gixaholic
This is clearly a falshood.... If we left iraq the country would fall into cival war.. Countless will be murdered for the fight for control and power. Civilians casualties which we as an armed force are respectfully considerd in action we take will not be the thinking they would use.....
Death would rain supreme unitl an ultimate winner a few years down the line apears victoriois.
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It is obvious and it is what the liberals want. Could you imagine the votes they would get in return.
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01-24-2007, 06:21 PM
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you guys pretend to know the future?? who knows what will happen???
for all you guys know, this war could escalate into WW3... a prospect that is not an impossibility
all im sayin' is this... maybe the answer to the problems of iraq isnt more soldiers and guns. i don't even pretend to know what the fuck is going on over there, or how we can fix it. but people doubt that any progress is being made. they feel that we are just tossing our kids into the fray with no clear or obtainable objective, and they want to stop it obviously.
as for iraq... the majority of people assume that foriegn countries do not want to be invaded by us. they assume that the iraqis are very very pissed off, and they assume that the iraqi people would like us to end the invasion.
are they wrong in assuming this?
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01-24-2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hexum
you guys pretend to know the future?? who knows what will happen???
for all you guys know, this war could escalate into WW3... a prospect that is not an impossibility
all im sayin' is this... maybe the answer to the problems of iraq isnt more soldiers and guns. i don't even pretend to know what the fuck is going on over there, or how we can fix it. but people doubt that any progress is being made. they feel that we are just tossing our kids into the fray with no clear or obtainable objective, and they want to stop it obviously.
as for iraq... the majority of people assume that foriegn countries do not want to be invaded by us. they assume that the iraqis are very very pissed off, and they assume that the iraqi people would like us to end the invasion.
are they wrong in assuming this?
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Iraq was happy with our invasion. This is obvious. terrorism changed this. From a marines stand point more troops will only help. ar result of more troops is a smaller area of operations, more detailed searches, more overwatch, more presence, more freedom to roam the streets for troops and police, less enemy activity in the streets etc etc etc...... To do this all we need is really one or two infantry companys per city in the anbar provence. Bush plans to send much more. I would have loved to have had this type of surge when i wan in iraq. The problem is the liberals dont see the common sence of the issue!
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01-24-2007, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty0311
Iraq was happy with our invasion. This is obvious. terrorism changed this. From a marines stand point more troops will only help. ar result of more troops is a smaller area of operations, more detailed searches, more overwatch, more presence, more freedom to roam the streets for troops and police, less enemy activity in the streets etc etc etc...... To do this all we need is really one or two infantry companys per city in the anbar provence. Bush plans to send much more. I would have loved to have had this type of surge when i wan in iraq. The problem is the liberals dont see the common sence of the issue!
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Then you would agree that a change of course two or three years ago would have been a good idea?
I have to wonder why it took the loss of the congress, to motivate him to change his strategy…could his stubbornness prior to November 2006 been for political reasons?
I contend they were, and that stubbornness put our troops in needless jeopardy and has extended this war well beyond the time it should have taken to do the job he felt needed to be done.
In short, he went cheap for political gains.
Thanks for making my case Sitty.
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