No No No. Tell me how this works. What will the troops need to do that we arent allready doing. How will this benefit us. You started it. There are one thousand answeres to my questions. I understand if you dont answer. I am not being sarcastic. I really understand!

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Im not typing for that long. bring an issue and i will adress it.

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I thought that you would be glad to tell us how you would implement the plan. Oh well, I am doing laundry right now and can't stay seated either for more than a few minutes at a time.

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I would love to have the time to explain

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Smitty, first let me say that I think our troops are doing an excellent job. It is the strategy I think , where we are lacking.

The very first thing I would do to implement this, is spell out to the public and congress all of the objectives. I would not, however go into specifics. However, you would have to explain some of the why of such a heavy force. I would use retired and present Military Leaders to sell this to them.

I would let it be known that Iraq will be expected to help
shoulder the expense of the war and the rebuilding of Iraq, and make it clear that if we pull out the US will virtually lose all monies expended so far.

Then Smitty, I would hit them with the full force of the US military. I would put the National Guard, Reserves, and some army units in charge of Patrolling and Controlling the Borders, I would put the army guarding the perimeter of all the hot spots, enforcing curfews, making sure people are not where they aren't suppose to be. Then I would have the Marines and Special Forces, ie Green Berets, ect., into performing special ops, major sweeps into the hot spots to get rid of the terrorists, & put down any opposition. I think with the force that I want to use, this will free up the forces from doing spot checks and allow them to really hit them hard. I would also change the rules of engagement. They would not have to wait until they are fired upon.

In concurrance with this, we would be training the Iraq military and police forces to do their job. Obviously some of this would be on the job training.

I would set up diplomatic ties to Iran and Syria to the extent of letting them no that we will not brook any type of engagement from them. I would compel Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, United Emirites(sp), into convincing Iran and Syria that it would not be in their best interest to interfer in Iraq, now or in the future.

Now Smitty, this is the most important part. Because I am not a military strategist and do not know all the ends and outs of war, while I would lay out the general objectives of the war, I would then turn this war over the Military and let them do what they do best. Make war. I really think if this were to happen, we could make short order of this war.

Good post.

This piecemeal crap is one of the reasons we are failing over there. As far as your troop levels, it damn near follows the Powell Doctrine, whereas you go go in with overwhelming force, unleash the military, and let us do what we do best. Policing and crap like that is all cute, but it isn't what we do best.

One other area that you didn't address was the fact that we made a mistake in completely dismantling the Iraqi army forces. We are now faced with establishing a force, from scratch.

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Honestly, I got the troop levels from a little research, suggestions scattered around this forum, and what I honestly thought our military could handle.

Their military i did fail to address and is quite the sticky situation considering that the religious factions are fighting amongst themselves. Whom do you trust? However, it does need to be made clear to the Iraqi's that eventually, hopefully sooner, than later, that they will be responsible for defending themselves. Maybe the unifing factor for them will be to keep Iran, Syria and other outside influences out of their country.

Trust is a difficult thing in the ME, as many of the citizens over there put their faith above even that of their nation. The key, as you stated in a round a bout way, is getting them to unserstand that it is in their best interest, for long term stability, to see that their nation is a success. And, as you said, that would include choosing to keep Iranian and Syrian influences out of their country.

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Would it change anyone's opinion if my dad was?

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First off, the USA entered out of economic purposes, despite the lies you were told about WMDs. Second, the USA screwed up the country themselves, pretty much single handedly. You follow? If any of the events you said occured, it would be the USA's fault. That's why they are still there: to lick their own rear ends and clean the mess they left behind. So, overall, they should have actually had a PLAN when they entered!

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