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Old 01-11-2007, 01:29 AM
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I am sorry but I don't understand the math here
We have 140,000 troops in Iraq
The military has 1,426,713 active troops and 858,500 reserve troops.
Why is it so hard find troops then?
Please excuse my ignorace here but it would seem that we have more than enough troops to fight any war.
Why then are people saying that we don't have enough troops?
http://siadapp.dior.whs.mil/personnel/MILITARY/ms0.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...oops#_note-USA
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:44 AM
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Oh and I know that we have troops stationed places that we don't want to move them from like South Korea, but it still doesn't add up.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:06 AM
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Oh and I know that we have troops stationed places that we don't want to move them from like South Korea, but it still doesn't add up.
You want to move troops from south korea??? Too late! We have allready done this! The army unit outside of ramadi when i was there are based out of korea. Why are you so quick to accuse of what you dont know about?

You know what. I will tell you this again. More troops means more overwatch, more patrolls, more raids, smaller area of operations, mor detailed serches, and more troops and police trained!

More overwatch means less enemy movement and less IED's. It means clear roads and less wepons for the enemy.

More patrolls means more vehicle/home serches and less hiding places for terrorists and their wepons. It means more of a presence and more fear for the enemy. It means more of a chance to kill the enemy.

More raids means less wepons, less terrorists, less propaganda, less Ieds, less recruiting, less terrorists funding, more terrorists caught, and safer neighborhoods.

Smaller area of operations means more detailed serches, less area for a company to cover and easeyer to manuver raids and serches!

This is only scratching the surface of the possibilitys and it doesent take many to do this stuff. Only one or two more companys can help out greatly!
Were talking 300 more or so per city. God the possibilitys! You obviously dont know how we fight this war!
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:11 AM
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You want to move troops from south korea??? Too late! We have allready done this! The army unit outside of ramadi when i was there are based out of korea. Why are you so quick to accuse of what you dont know about?
I did not accuse anyone of anything. You need to back down and quit being so defensive.
Read my other post.
I am saying that we have enough troops in the military.
The Question is why aren't we using them?
Ok Smitty I'm on your side.
I do not think that we should move troops from SK
The reason for my post was I am always hearing that the military doesn't have enought troops.
As far as I can see we have plenty.
Why then are we not using them?
Oh and I agree with you about the need for more troops.
This wasn't an attack on you or the military.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:13 AM
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I did not accuse anyone of anything. You need to back down and quit being so defensive.
Read my other post.
I am saying that we have enough troops in the military.
The Question is why aren't we using them?
Im sorry AYFR. I missread your post. I apologise I didnt give you a more detailed explanation of how more troops could help but if i wanted to I could write a book on this kind of stuff. I would be here all night on that issue. Once again kix im sorry i brought my anger from another post to you.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:34 AM
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That is alright
I know that more troops would be helpful.
My question is why are we always hearing that the military is short of troops to send?
Why are people going on their third and fourth rotations when we have almost a million and a half man military not counting reserves?
I am serious about wanting to know.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:46 AM
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I am sorry but I don't understand the math here
We have 140,000 troops in Iraq
The military has 1,426,713 active troops and 858,500 reserve troops.
Why is it so hard find troops then?
Please excuse my ignorace here but it would seem that we have more than enough troops to fight any war.
Why then are people saying that we don't have enough troops?
http://siadapp.dior.whs.mil/personnel/MILITARY/ms0.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...oops#_note-USA
This is a good point. I have been asking this from the start and it is a lot of politics being played from the Neo Cons. It is the idea of making no real sacrifice and keeping things out of the eye of the public. Well, the idea backfired on Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Smit is a bit right here but there was a time when it was much easier to use 400,000 possible troops to REALLY do this right and Rumsfeld could have done it by really thinking through world wide re-deployment the right way. He did not want to get told what to do and tried to do this under a number of very bad assumptions. And here we have today and we are painted into a corner.
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:50 AM
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So I have a question then.
If we flood the aread with troops could we win?
I am talking about more than 20,000, I am talking in the 200,000-300,000 range.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:03 AM
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So I have a question then.
If we flood the aread with troops could we win?
I am talking about more than 20,000, I am talking in the 200,000-300,000 range.
AYFR, that is what the number Abazaid and Franks had been saying it will take. The new guy in command has been saying things like this too; I would have to believe them. I saw an interview last night with Wes Clark talking about this too.
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Old 01-11-2007, 03:13 AM
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Well cAt looks like we agree, then again I thought it was asinine for Bush not to send enough troops in the first place.
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