Iraq Ministry of Health under follower of Cleric al Sadr

Sam · #11 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 10:37 PM

Smitty and Kix did either of you read that is what I wrote. That Sadr has taken control of many hospitals, morgues and even the Ministry of Health and that was my point. Did you even read my words. Do you think my links explaining Sadr torture and control is propaganda Smitty. Did you read that I wrote the above information explains why healthcare is a disaster and our troops have had to target and raid healthcare facilities?

Smitty0311 · #12 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 10:40 PM

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Smitty and Kix did either of you read that is what I wrote. That Sadr has taken control of many hospitals, morgues and even the Ministry of Health and that was my point. Did you even read my words. Do you think my links explaining Sadr torture and control is propaganda Smitty. Did you read that I wrote the above information explains why healthcare is a disaster and our troops have had to target and raid healthcare facilities?

I believe we answered your post. I was just explaining the situation on the hospital raids! I have done a few of them. Terror hides behind the innocent!

gixaholic · #13 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Smitty and Kix did either of you read that is what I wrote. That Sadr has taken control of many hospitals, morgues and even the Ministry of Health and that was my point. Did you even read my words. Do you think my links explaining Sadr torture and control is propaganda Smitty. Did you read that I wrote the above information explains why healthcare is a disaster and our troops have had to target and raid healthcare facilities?

Al-Maliki gives Mahdi Army blunt ultimatum
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16558179/

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq’s prime minister has told Shiite militiamen to surrender their arms or face an all-out assault by U.S.-backed Iraqi forces, senior Iraqi officials said Wednesday, as President Bush said he will commit an additional 21,500 American combat troops to the war.

Sam · #14 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 10:46 PM

So a post where I explain why troops have to raid the Ministry of Health and hospitals because of Sadr is deserving of Kix reply? You think it smears our troops to explain the dior situation and why the healthcare system is unreliable because of Sadr. Read Kix response to my defence of the troops havingto raid these places. I begin with a description of a raid and then link to how militias use healthcare systems for torture. Read the thread again Smitty from begiining to end.

Smitty0311 · #15 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 11:34 PM

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So a post where I explain why troops have to raid the Ministry of Health and hospitals because of Sadr is deserving of Kix reply? You think it smears our troops to explain the dior situation and why the healthcare system is unreliable because of Sadr. Read Kix response to my defence of the troops havingto raid these places. I begin with a description of a raid and then link to how militias use healthcare systems for torture. Read the thread again Smitty from begiining to end.

Hey I just gave an explanation on why we raid these targets! What did you want?

Sam · #16 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 11:48 PM

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Morgue pictures and massive piles of bodies floating in rivers? Gee, it sounds like we've got us another Jenin massacre on our hands. And you really believe that our troops are responsible for all this mass killing?

Let's all get sick why don't we?

There's only one reason I can think of for you posting this garbage when you know that Sadr's Mahdi Army would do anything to regain power, up to and including murder their own people. There is only one reason you could have for posting this article when you know Sadr's Mahdi Army would say anything to discredit our troops. That reason is that you too wish to discredit our troops.

Well Smitty everything I posted backs up what you just said and my post about bodies dumped and floating in the river was about civilians not wanting to go to hospitals or morgues or The Ministry of health. I then described a raid and said I can see why because the healthcare system is in complete chaos and being used for torture. Kix seems to think this discredits our troops to discuss this.

I may disagree with you on how this all came about but I was showing why our troops had to target healthcare facilities and why doctors have left the country and what a pathetic sad state is has become due to militias taking over. I knew after our invasion healthcare was minimal but did not realize the Ministry was fueling and covering for the militias.

While researching another thread I became aware of the corruption in the Ministry of Health and that was the impetus for this post. I think Kix missed it and you as well. See his post quoted.

Smitty0311 · #17 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 11:49 PM

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Well Smitty everything I posted backs up what you just said and my post about bodies dumped and floating in the river was about civilians not wanting to go to hospitals or morgues or The Ministry of health. I then described a raid and said I can see why because the healthcare system is in complete chaos and being used for torture. Kix seems to think this discredits our troops to discuss this.

I may disagree with you on how this all came about but I was showing why our troops had to target healthcare facilities and why doctors have left the country and what a pathetic sad state is has become due to militias taking over. I knew after our invasion healthcare was minimal but did not realize the Ministry was fueling and covering for the militias.

While researching another thread I became aware of the corruption in the Ministry of Health and that was the impetus for this post. I think Kix missed it and you as well. See his post quoted.

This is how terror works!

Sam · #18 (**permalink**) 01-10-2007, 11:55 PM

So do you agree with Kix that my explanation about healthcare facilities and the Ministry being used by Sadr and that is the reason for our military raids is discrediting our troops???!!!

Smitty0311 · #19 (**permalink**) 01-11-2007, 12:00 AM

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So do you agree with Kix that my explanation about healthcare facilities and the Ministry being used by Sadr and that is the reason for our military raids is discrediting our troops???!!!

All terror propaganda is used to sway public opinion! This is how terror works! Just look at the american people. Just look at the midterm elections. A result of terror! The terrorists are accomplishing their goals. They want people to hate bush! Terror is the unlawful use of violence to achieve a political or religious objective! Looks like they are winning. Isnt it sad?

Sam · #20 (**permalink**) 01-11-2007, 12:18 AM

So you think the posts I made about Sadr taking over healthcare is propaganda and smearing are troops as kix said.That people are dumping bodies everywhere because they are afraid of the morgues because of militias. You did not answer my question in the last post.You just scream TERROR in answer to all posts. Slow down a little and actually respond to what is being written.