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12-18-2006, 01:47 PM
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Colin Powell: US losing Iraq war
Here he is, weighing in from this weekend...
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BBC WORLD NEWS Last Updated: Monday, 18 December 2006, 13:45 GMT
Colin Powell: US losing Iraq war
Powell said the military was too overstretched to send extra troops
Former US Secretary of State Colin Powell has said overstretched US troops are losing the conflict in Iraq.
Mr Powell told CBS News that bolstering troop numbers would be unlikely to reverse the "grave and deteriorating situation" in the country.
President Bush is trying to shape a new strategy for Iraq, with officials suggesting more soldiers may be sent.
The recent Iraq Study Group review said the US strategy of "staying the course" was no longer viable.
It suggested combat troops could be withdrawn by early 2008.
But on Friday, an administration official said up to 25,000 more troops could be deployed in the country to try to help end the violence and make cities like Baghdad more secure.
There are currently 140,000 US troops in Iraq.
'Overstretched'
The leader of the Democrats in the US Senate has backed the reported plan to boost troop levels, but only if it is part of a longer-term strategy.
"If it is for a surge, that is, for two or three months, and if it is part of a programme to get us out of there as indicated by this time next year, then, sure, I'll go along with it," Harry Reid said.
However, Mr Powell told CBS he was not convinced more soldiers on the ground would quell the violence.
"I am not persuaded that another surge of troops into Baghdad for the purposes of suppressing this communitarian violence, this civil war, will work," he said.
He added that such was the overstretch of the US military, there were no additional troops that could be sent.
"We are losing - we haven't lost - and this is the time, now to start to put in place the kinds of strategies that will turn this situation around," he said.
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12-18-2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Here he is, weighing in from this weekend...
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THATS RIGHT WE HAVE NOT LOST! AMATTER A FACT WE HAVE ADVANCED. LIBERALS PLZ QUIT MOTOVATING THE TERRORISTS!
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12-18-2006, 11:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty0311
THATS RIGHT WE HAVE NOT LOST! AMATTER A FACT WE HAVE ADVANCED. LIBERALS PLZ QUIT MOTOVATING THE TERRORISTS!
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Call the BBC my friend.
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12-19-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Call the BBC my friend.
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YOU MEAN TALK TO POWEL? NO THANKS I WILL JUST GO OFF OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE!
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12-19-2006, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Call the BBC my friend.
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why do you have to patronize a soldier who has seen this event fold first hand
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12-19-2006, 12:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty0311
YOU MEAN TALK TO POWEL? NO THANKS I WILL JUST GO OFF OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE!
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No, smitty, BBC stands for British Broadcasting Company.....that's who wrote the article.
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12-19-2006, 12:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty0311
YOU MEAN TALK TO POWEL? NO THANKS I WILL JUST GO OFF OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE!
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Ah, I see, another right wing nihilist who really doesn't give s*** about any history before himself. So you don't care that Powell has a long distinquished war record that dates way back to before you were born? This is what is a called positive institutional memory so one doesn't 'put thier hand on the hot stove' again. Little kids even learn this, you seem to have not.
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12-19-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by StormanNorman
No, smitty, BBC stands for British Broadcasting Company.....that's who wrote the article.
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NO STORMAN! BBC GOT THEIR INFORMATION FROM POWEL AND I KNOW WHAT BBC STANDS FOR! POWEL GAVE THE INFO AND BBC PUBLISHED IT! WHY DO I NEED TO ASK BBC? THEY WERE JUST THE MESSINGER!
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12-19-2006, 12:12 AM
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Powell can see whats going on. he is not stupid. He was used.
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12-19-2006, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gixaholic
why do you have to patronize a soldier who has seen this event fold first hand
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Gix, we are on a debate site, grow up. If our young soldier friend wants to dish it out here then he will have to take it. Hell, we are the very least of the guys worries.  His opinion is highly valued, I would ignore him otherwise...OK?
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