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Old 12-17-2006, 04:55 PM
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Yawn.

Next.
nice i see you take 911 so lightly. Oh yea thats a big yawn event................................. 3,000 of innocent people killed. Life changed for every man woman and child in the USA.

Oh yea big yawn
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:02 PM
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nice i see you take 911 so lightly. Oh yea thats a big yawn event................................. 3,000 of innocent people killed. Life changed for every man woman and child in the USA.

Oh yea big yawn

Even bigger yawn.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:09 PM
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Speaking of backlash---yeah bombing a funeral possession would cause just as much condemnation as if terrorist bombed an American funeral possession.

There are rules of engagement like it or not.
I odubt seriously if a terrorist would think twice about bombing a funeral procession if they had a chance to take out a bunch of American leaders.

As far as rules of engagement, I am not sure about that. If you are firing shots from a mosque then that mosque should be attacked. If you are meeting in funeral processions one could expect those to be unsafe places as well.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:13 PM
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Even bigger yawn.
may i ask you why it's a yawn.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:19 PM
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Because we've heard that old - 'did the 9/11 terrorists give a shit about rules'?' line too many times now. It's like with music, there's only so many times you can listen to 'Born In The USA' without it inducing a feeling of unpleasant, over familiarity. You, I suspect, will vehemently disagree though.
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Old 12-17-2006, 05:23 PM
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Because we've heard that old - 'did the 9/11 terrorists give a shit about rules'?' line too many times now. It's like with music, there's only so many times you can listen to 'Born In The USA' without it inducing a feeling of unpleasant, over familiarity. You, I suspect, will vehemently disagree though.
you call yourself an american. Your comparing the most tragic day in american history to a pop song.
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Because we've heard that old - 'did the 9/11 terrorists give a shit about rules'?' line too many times now. It's like with music, there's only so many times you can listen to 'Born In The USA' without it inducing a feeling of unpleasant, over familiarity. You, I suspect, will vehemently disagree though.
Jack your full of shit. Ive know your type! You dont ever give a shit about anything untill it is your own life being threatend! Your post are only to incite anger and have no real backing! Unless your going to make a real point i suggest you dont post at all! Your responce tells me that you have no respect for any one but yourself. Your lucky you live in a country from wich it is illegal to crack someones head open!
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Jack your full of shit. Ive know your type! You dont ever give a shit about anything untill it is your own life being threatend! Your post are only to incite anger and have no real backing! Unless your going to make a real point i suggest you dont post at all! Your responce tells me that you have no respect for any one but yourself. Your lucky you live in a country from wich it is illegal to crack someones head open!
smitty great post and a lot of truth to it, as you well know the world is full of them, they think only of themselves and not what is good or happening to our country.
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I odubt seriously if a terrorist would think twice about bombing a funeral procession if they had a chance to take out a bunch of American leaders.

As far as rules of engagement, I am not sure about that. If you are firing shots from a mosque then that mosque should be attacked. If you are meeting in funeral processions one could expect those to be unsafe places as well.
Dom, they are part of the rules of engagement (ROE). I wish I could download for you guys some AC-130 footage from Afghanistan and you can see the very, very stringent ROE at work. The ROE was very strict from the get go in Afghanistan even just after 9/11. And there were reasons for this....an it's not because of fear of the liberal backlash....that's ridiculous....that's just another blame game.

Now, I'm not justifying some of these things. But the motivation is the following: in these kinds of wars where you rely heavily on indigenous intel, you don't want to alienate the population at any costs, period.

I don't know what happened in this case. When there is a perceived question mark when it comes to the ROE, things get very sticky and they slow down because the decision making becomes very centralized. The ROE can be gray at times...this may have been one of those times....at least, for the Predator controllers.
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Dom, they are part of the rules of engagement (ROE). I wish I could download for you guys some AC-130 footage from Afghanistan and you can see the very, very stringent ROE at work. The ROE was very strict from the get go in Afghanistan even just after 9/11. And there were reasons for this....an it's not because of fear of the liberal backlash....that's ridiculous....that's just another blame game.

Now, I'm not justifying some of these things. But the motivation is the following: in these kinds of wars where you rely heavily on indigenous intel, you don't want to alienate the population at any costs, period.

I don't know what happened in this case. When there is a perceived question mark when it comes to the ROE, things get very sticky and they slow down because the decision making becomes very centralized. The ROE can be gray at times...this may have been one of those times....at least, for the Predator controllers.
Talk about a Bingo!!! Well said Norm, thanks

There are many examples of grey area as per the ROE and the miltary. This is only one story and why is it still coming back? Politics pure and simple and how you want to paint the left. Look, it is an old story and I am sure there are many others like it but even look at the date of the story. Just before the election and you are bringing it up again.
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