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04-16-2006, 01:26 AM
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Rice: Leaving Iraq Early Would Be Missed Opportunity
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WASHINGTON, April 14, 2006 – Democracy in Iraq could secure the beginnings of a new Middle East, the nation's top diplomat said yesterday in a radio interview.
On "The Sean Hannity Show," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice warned that leaving Iraq would be to leave the country to fugitive Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his ilk.
"I would just ask the American people to think about the alternative," Rice said. "The alternative is to leave prematurely from Iraq and leave that country to the likes of Zarqawi and al Qaeda and to miss the chance, to miss the opportunity to have a stable and democratic Iraq as an anchor in a different kind of Middle East. "
Rice acknowledged that change in Iraq is difficult right now, but "any big historical change is always tough and violent," she noted. During her most recent trip to the region earlier this month, she said she noticed substantial progress between then and when she was last in Iraq in November.
"When I'm there, I find so encouraging what the Iraqis are doing in terms of their political system and its development, in terms of maturity of their security forces, in terms of their ability to work together on difficult problems," the secretary said.
She also said she recognizes that questioning America's continuing presence in Iraq is something people are bound to do. "I can understand how the American people, looking every day at the television pictures of bombings and violence in Iraq, can wonder what is really going on here and are we going to be successful," she said.
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Dems won't make this agrument.
why?
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13893.html
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04-19-2006, 10:11 PM
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Well, considering the shape OUR Govt. is in, I don't think we should be forcing it on people who want nothing to do with us!
Yeah, we're gonna end a thousand year feud over religion in this war.
What happens if we pull out, civil war! Oh'Yeah, Right, there already is one, and our presents there isn't really helping matters.
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04-20-2006, 02:56 AM
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Well that is an interesting perspective. Can't say that I agree with any of it though.
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04-20-2006, 08:32 AM
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Well that is an interesting perspective. Can't say that I agree with any of it though.
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So then we should force our customs, Govt. and way of life on them? Do you think that our Govt. is stable, and without mass corruption? Should tobacco, pharmisudical, etc... lobbiests be allowed to bribe public officials to get what is profitable for the Co. good, or bad for the American people? A nation where 5% of the pop. has 95% of it's $$$???
Until we can eliminate corruption in our Govt., we really shouldn't be trying to force Democracy on Iraq. I think we have eneugh problems here in the states, and should work on them, before we start bombing (too late) another country, and saying "my way, or the highway."
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04-20-2006, 02:31 PM
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Your right rosewell. There are tons of problems here in the U.S. We should have never started this piontless war anyway. And there is already a cival war in Iraq. I don't think that they like the U.S.'s presence there.
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04-20-2006, 04:20 PM
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So then we should force our customs, Govt. and way of life on them? Do you think that our Govt. is stable, and without mass corruption? Should tobacco, pharmisudical, etc... lobbiests be allowed to bribe public officials to get what is profitable for the Co. good, or bad for the American people? A nation where 5% of the pop. has 95% of it's $$$???
Until we can eliminate corruption in our Govt., we really shouldn't be trying to force Democracy on Iraq. I think we have eneugh problems here in the states, and should work on them, before we start bombing (too late) another country, and saying "my way, or the highway."
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That is YOUR argument and I already said that I don't agree with it.
I am a supporter of reuniting the 6 Northern Counties with the Republic of Ireland. And I use that perspective when coming to conclusions about how we are motivated.
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04-20-2006, 04:21 PM
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Your right rosewell. There are tons of problems here in the U.S. We should have never started this piontless war anyway. And there is already a cival war in Iraq. I don't think that they like the U.S.'s presence there.
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There are certainly problems here in the United States of America.
Of what value is there in pointing that out?
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04-20-2006, 06:21 PM
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There are certainly problems here in the United States of America.
Of what value is there in pointing that out?
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Because we should be focusing on them, not Iraq's problems!!
That is YOUR argument and I already said that I don't agree with it.
Yeah, that's what most of this admin. says when asked questions! 
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04-23-2006, 05:58 PM
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Because we should be focusing on them, not Iraq's problems!!
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So you are advocating isolationism?
We can't/shouldn't do anything in the world untill all of our problems are solved?
Sounds like Pat Buchanon and I don't agree with him or you.
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04-23-2006, 06:37 PM
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So you are advocating isolationism?
We can't/shouldn't do anything in the world untill all of our problems are solved?
Sounds like Pat Buchanon and I don't agree with him or you.
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So, we should work on the worlds problems first, and then worry about the States??? World problems obviously need to be addressed, but sorry if I want my tax dollars spent on Americans in need FIRST AND FOREMOST!!!
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