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Old 04-07-2006, 02:41 PM
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This war is insane. WHere is it getting us? We went there for a few reasons. Now they have all been proven wrong. Why are we there. To spend money? now we have spent more than 271 billion dollars(www.costofwar.com).
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:29 PM
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There are no end of people like you who were absolutely silent when Clintoon made all of his adventures overseas.

Want to talk about costs? How about the cost of the million people that are on the verge of starvation in Somalia? Hmmmm.. .clintoon's cutting and running didn't do much good there.

Of course the Demorats have a long history of cutting and running and leaving the people to die. As long as they think that that are hurting Republicans when doing it then it is fine.

The Vietnamese.

The Cambodians.

The Laotion.

The Afghani.


Another interesting group is the Mosquito Indians who lived and thrived for centuries of repressive right wing governments in Central America but were wiped out in decades by the Marxists.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:52 PM
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At least we dont shoot our lawyers. And what the heck are you talking about? The republicans are spying on different people illeagally. And what is clintoon's?
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"Of course the Demorats have a long history of cutting and running and leaving the people to die. As long as they think that that are hurting Republicans when doing it then it is fine. The Vietnamese. The Cambodians. The Laotion."

>>>Damn - and here I was thinking that Nixon and Ford cut and ran from Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Am I wrong here? Didn't think so. Maybe Bush could send Condi to start up some peace talks in Paris so we could get a little 'peace with honor' around here, eh?
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:21 PM
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"Of course the Demorats have a long history of cutting and running and leaving the people to die. As long as they think that that are hurting Republicans when doing it then it is fine. The Vietnamese. The Cambodians. The Laotion."

>>>Damn - and here I was thinking that Nixon and Ford cut and ran from Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Am I wrong here? Didn't think so. Maybe Bush could send Condi to start up some peace talks in Paris so we could get a little 'peace with honor' around here, eh?

Well of course you have to put the blame anywhere but at your own feet. God forbid that you admit your sides mistake.

For the record it was a Democratic Congress that cut the funds for those places. But hey, as long as you want to believe the other thing then go ahead.



Maybe Democrats could stop starting wars that they aren't prepared to finish like Vietnam and Korea.

Naaaa that will never happen because the democrats are like retarded children: easily distracted.
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:24 PM
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At least we dont shoot our lawyers. And what the heck are you talking about? The republicans are spying on different people illeagally. And what is clintoon's?

Who shot a lawyer? Of course you are confused. You believe the democrats which is a sign of mental illness. Just like Michael Savage says.

Repubs are spying on different people? Yeah that is relevant to your idiotic topic. But the bong down.

Clintoon's illegal war against the Yugoslavians. Somalia debacle. Haiti debacle.

Ring any bells? Or do you just pay attention to the Republican wars?
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:45 PM
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All those interventions were supported by lots of Republicans too - and they didn't cost anywhere near 300 billion dollars.

In fact, the Somalia debacle was a decision by George H.W. Bush -
http://www.empereur.com/somaliaus.html

"On December 4th, 1992, exactly a month after Bush’s defeat, he announced that the US was going to deploy a member of military force to Somalia in order to create a safe environment for the humanitarian aid mission. The deployment named Operation Restore Hope began on December 9, it peaked at about 25,800 US troops joined by thousands of other nationalities."

So that was a REPUBLICAN debacle that a Democrat inherited. And I don't think Bush the elder was wrong to want to try to help people who were starving to death.

As for Haiti, I don't see how people who support the war in Iraq can claim that it was wrong to try to intervene to keep Haiti democratic. All the nation-building Bush used to oppose he's now supporting in Afghanistan and Iraq. If anything, we didn't go far enough - sending in troops alone wasn't enough. We needed to support Haitian civil society rather than just decide who was in power.

As for Yugoslavia, Clinton's approach worked. It was a basketcase until U.S. airstrikes along with a strong peace process worked.

http://www.globalterrorism101.com/ar...ugoslavia.html

The point is that the military can only be a minor part of any real effort at peace. Clinton understood that. He didn't spend more than a few billion on each intervention - keeping our money in the surplus and ending deficits.
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VV fabulous post and right on. military should be used to solve problems not escalate and drive the counrtry into debt. Your links were excellent!
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:55 AM
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Who shot a lawyer? Of course you are confused. You believe the democrats which is a sign of mental illness. Just like Michael Savage says.

Repubs are spying on different people? Yeah that is relevant to your idiotic topic. But the bong down.

Clintoon's illegal war against the Yugoslavians. Somalia debacle. Haiti debacle.

Ring any bells? Or do you just pay attention to the Republican wars?

DUH.... Vice Pres. Cheney shot his lawyer i am not confused either. and phones are being tapped everywhere. I agree with what sd123 is saying.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:14 AM
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All those interventions were supported by lots of Republicans too - and they didn't cost anywhere near 300 billion dollars.

In fact, the Somalia debacle was a decision by George H.W. Bush -
http://www.empereur.com/somaliaus.html

"On December 4th, 1992, exactly a month after Bush’s defeat, he announced that the US was going to deploy a member of military force to Somalia in order to create a safe environment for the humanitarian aid mission. The deployment named Operation Restore Hope began on December 9, it peaked at about 25,800 US troops joined by thousands of other nationalities."

So that was a REPUBLICAN debacle that a Democrat inherited. And I don't think Bush the elder was wrong to want to try to help people who were starving to death.

As for Haiti, I don't see how people who support the war in Iraq can claim that it was wrong to try to intervene to keep Haiti democratic. All the nation-building Bush used to oppose he's now supporting in Afghanistan and Iraq. If anything, we didn't go far enough - sending in troops alone wasn't enough. We needed to support Haitian civil society rather than just decide who was in power.

As for Yugoslavia, Clinton's approach worked. It was a basketcase until U.S. airstrikes along with a strong peace process worked.

http://www.globalterrorism101.com/ar...ugoslavia.html

The point is that the military can only be a minor part of any real effort at peace. Clinton understood that. He didn't spend more than a few billion on each intervention - keeping our money in the surplus and ending deficits.
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