Umm, yeah, you were trying to trick people by changing the ethos of your opinions.

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I wasn't trying to trick anyone... I just didn't give the source... when asked I produced it. NO PROBLEM... I know how much you neos hate the times so I didn't put it down. Facts are still facts... can't beat those can you!

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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

— Benjamin Franklin

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

It's not the facts of the story, it's that you wanted to present facts from an admittantly unbelievable source, so you deliberately with-held the information in hopes of decieving people.

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"If I didn't live in Ohio I would love to live in Texas, it's the only place where drinking beer and kickin' ass is still accepted." -Roman

The facts aren't in debate... they are FACT. I'm just tired of the "THE TIMES IS EVIL" bullshit. Read the facts... then lets talk facts.

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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

— Benjamin Franklin

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

Those hand guns will be used to kill our troops in Iraq---you idiot. How do you tie this thread into an NBA Parking lot. STAY FOCUS NIMROD. After all, you had no problem "STAYING THE COURSE" until Bush told your dumb Ass to change course.

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They just can't admit that iraq is mess... The claim to love the troops but aren't worried about 14000 hand guns that can used against them.

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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

— Benjamin Franklin

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

Hi Rast,

Gee lighten the hell up. I can almost hear you screaching. Handguns DO NOT DEFEAT body armor, quit watching the Matrix.

The NBA reference was a joke that is WAY over your head. Find a slow seven year old to explain it to you.

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Kinda like the "Fox News lies" bullshit you say whenever it is linked to.

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I love the mentality of some on this forum. In one post they claim that the government is incompetant, in the next that that same incompetant government could pull off packing the WTC with explosives without any evidence left behind.

Nazi right, huh? The fact that you would even dare to throw out a moniker like that destroys your credibility instantly. You have no understanding of the evil that humans are capable of, that is clearly demonstrated by comparing anything that occurs in our government with the nazi's.

I am truly sorry that you are so blinded by your faith in the Democrats that you cannot bear to allow another to feel differently about an issue without labeling them, and a nazi at that. You should be pitied.

There are a few vomitous traitors here. It amazes me how often they succeed in camouflaging themselves. "Rat as a man", "You_are_the_Nazi_Left", and "george ooFah well" are three persistent
propagandists. They have dutifully spawned the socialistdem talking points for months ( and presumably for long before that ). The threads they initiate, and their cut-and-pastes of hysterical extremist leftist sources and perspectives are virtually the slogans and smears of both our present foreign enemies, but they also mirror the ongoing propaganda ploys and tactics of the communist
( why, yes, there REALLY is/was a ComIntern ) anti-american campaign. A campaign that is completely enveloped our institutions of higher learning.
( this explains "ooFah! wells" and another culprit "Ockhams butterknife" condescending but grammatical competence.)
( "rat as a man" and such are merely other resentful proles. )

There are no stands these bottomfeeders take that doesn't demoralize, or actually weaken their nation in International conflicts.

There are virtually NO positions, perspectives, opinions,
or judgements that are their own.

Virtually ALL their words are the opinions and agendas
of more honest and intelligent manipulators.
Open "deconstructionists", Dedicated to an America that is marginally a socialist collective and one where morality is a legislated affair.

Men like Howard Zinn, Norman Mailer, Gore Vidal, Noam Chomsky,
Laurence Tribe, and more than I care to mention.
These are the ideological wellspring for these corrosive posters.
These are the "thinkers" who poison our public discussions.
These fourth-rate propagandists here in AWE are not valid opinions when their morals, values, agendas, and positions are not honest or rational.
Positions that are identical to our enemies positions.

Too many spend their time entertaining the straw man debates
that these activists frame.
If the content and underlying premises are questioned..
these rustpuppies fade into another thread..
They usually curse and insult befor they leave..
But if we all mock their false loyalty..
they would soon realize that their jig is up.

Just like their champion dullard
John FD student) Kerry.
what a maroon.