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Old 10-29-2006, 12:33 AM
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They haven't had a plan for the last 20 years.
The only plan I've seen coming from them was to keep on duping the country into believing the false sense of security they were spoon-feeding everyone and dismantling our military until there was nothing left to defend ourselves with while using U.S. troops to kill more U.S. citizens than anyone else.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:34 AM
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Oh wow... 2 one/hundreds of the people who've served in Iraq are saying they disagree with the war? Oh my goodness, we need to pull ALL the troops out because a few crybabies didn't like having to go to war AFTER VOLUNTEERING FOR THE MILITARY!


Wrong... Democrats are running for congress because they don't like the Republicans having control. And they can't even agree between themselves what should be done about Iraq. But I guess you didn't figure you needed to even read the article when you could just post your rant, right RASTAMAN?
Well, you wanted evidence there you have it. In your RANTS you try to lead people to believe that just yourself and your son have the most profound happenings on the situation in Iraq. However, both of you can't be further from the truth in my opinion. Iraq is a complete CLUSTER FUCK. You can try and spin your version on the situation in Iraq if you want too, but spinning the truth is not dealing with reality.

But hey KIX, do what you do BEST----KEEP SPINNING.
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:55 AM
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Well, you wanted evidence there you have it. In your RANTS you try to lead people to believe that just yourself and your son have the most profound happenings on the situation in Iraq. However, both of you can't be further from the truth in my opinion. Iraq is a complete CLUSTER FUCK. You can try and spin your version on the situation in Iraq if you want too, but spinning the truth is not dealing with reality.

But hey KIX, do what you do BEST----KEEP SPINNING.
Good Grief, you don't know what reality is. I talk to twice as many guys in a week who've been over there than they have as members on that site. They claim a whopping 230+ members but only have 47 listed. And that's out of ALL the hundreds of thousands of troops that have been to Iraq. The majority of those people listed on that site got to Iraq and filed for Conscientious Objector. For each one of them a thousand more guys volunteered to go back to Iraq instead of taking the coward’s way out. So no Rasty, it's not evidence of anything other than a few cowards who thought they'd ride the military gravy train but when it came to actually having to do what a military is intended to do they bolted and then formed a little club to make them feel less like the cowards they are.

And for the record your opinion doesn't mean squat.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:02 AM
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Well, you wanted evidence there you have it. In your RANTS you try to lead people to believe that just yourself and your son have the most profound happenings on the situation in Iraq. However, both of you can't be further from the truth in my opinion. Iraq is a complete CLUSTER FUCK. You can try and spin your version on the situation in Iraq if you want too, but spinning the truth is not dealing with reality.

But hey KIX, do what you do BEST----KEEP SPINNING.
yeah right...
http://www.nomullas.com/beheadings.html

btw, last I heard we blew these thugs up!
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Old 10-29-2006, 07:48 AM
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all right!!!!! the boogie man channel.
is this the campaign poster? dont vote for democrats or you will be beheaded
you can only ride the wave of fear for so long
if this is how you shore up your base...you guys better hope osama strikes somewhere soon.
propaganda!
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:40 AM
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Good Grief, you don't know what reality is. I talk to twice as many guys in a week who've been over there than they have as members on that site. They claim a whopping 230+ members but only have 47 listed. And that's out of ALL the hundreds of thousands of troops that have been to Iraq. The majority of those people listed on that site got to Iraq and filed for Conscientious Objector. For each one of them a thousand more guys volunteered to go back to Iraq instead of taking the coward’s way out. So no Rasty, it's not evidence of anything other than a few cowards who thought they'd ride the military gravy train but when it came to actually having to do what a military is intended to do they bolted and then formed a little club to make them feel less like the cowards they are.

And for the record your opinion doesn't mean squat.
Sorry Kix, but your son's viewpoint of progress in Iraq is laughable at best b/c the Iraqi's wants your son and the u.s. military out of their country. Yes, thats right, your son and his imperialistic conservative friends have warn out their welcome.

Its time for your son and his comrades to come home. Iraq is a lost cause and has descended into Chaotic Killing Fields of death and destruction, and no group of positive thinking conservative Good Ole Boys can change that fact. Bush and the Republican's have put our military into an unwinnable situation.

Should our military stay in Iraq for the next 10 to 20years (A Republican Plan) nothing will change except for more death and destruction on both sides. More veterans would speak out against the War but the threat of Article 15's and prosecution under the UCMJ makes the miitary member think twice about speaking out until they leave the military.

Although thousands of military members volunteer to go back, 10's of thousands of military members and their families are tired of being exploited for Bush's war for OIL PROFITTS and want us out of Iraq. Speaking of conscientous objectors the COWARDLY Republican Congress and Bush Administration officials flexed their draft dodging objections during the Vietnam War.

Yes, that's right your GOP is full of draft dodging CHICKEN HAWK COWARDS and many hide out in Guard and Reserve units never slated to go to Nam. Yet today these same conservatives send our guard and reserves into the Iraqi Killing Fields on a rotational BASIS with no end in site.

When you, your son and his friends finally wake up and see light, don't blame liberals for the failures of Iraq. You need only to look no further than the Bush Administration and yourselves.
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:42 AM
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yeah right...
http://www.nomullas.com/beheadings.html

btw, last I heard we blew these thugs up!
How many more of those THUGS will you Republican Conservatives need to continue to BLOW UP!!!
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They haven't had a plan for the last 20 years.
The Republicans havent had a plan for the last 6 years.
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Rasta, there are several reasons that people have listed for being in Iraq. The first reason was regime change and human rights. The biggest complaint I have heard from soldiers that served over in Iraq was that they were not working their mos, they were protecting convoys and security stuff. But they supported the mission. And on yeah before you start to rant, I train the guard and active soldiers.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:19 AM
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Rasta, there are several reasons that people have listed for being in Iraq. The first reason was regime change and human rights. The biggest complaint I have heard from soldiers that served over in Iraq was that they were not working their mos, they were protecting convoys and security stuff. But they supported the mission. And on yeah before you start to rant, I train the guard and active soldiers.
Rob there you go again rationalizing and spinning the truth why we are in Iraq, when truth be told Bush sold America on going to Iraq based on WMD and removing Saddam. Now, no WMD were ever found and and Saddam has been removed from power. Our military did their job--yet Bush has held our military over in Iraq as a police keeping force and to perform social service work of which our military was not trained to do and should not be made to do.

So if Bush was a man of his word (which he isn't) he should have withdrawn our troops out of Iraq to let's say Kuwait and allowed the Iraqi's to begin to rebuild their own country and form their own version of Democracy. Bush Admin. is failing in Iraq b/c they had no plan for the peace! The real plan was to go into Iraq to steal the oil and to re-write the Iraqi constitution so as to steal and exploit the natrual resources from the Iraqi citizens.

Instead of using the "Marshall Plan" (Like the U.S. did to Re-build Germany & Japan) using American tax paying dollars to re-build and employ Iraqi's to rebuild their own country; the Bush administration choose to pay billions of dollars to allow Defense contractors and mercenaries to over see the rebuilding of Iraq. Once the Iraqi's saw this was Bush's plan, they immediately started to rebel.

You maybe training the guard and active duty soldiers in your area, however no training in the world can over come the situation is Iraq where the U.S. have over stayed their welcome and are no longer welcomed GUEST. So you stay on your futile hamster exercise wheel of endless training if you choose to do so, but understand your efforts will be futile.
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