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10-11-2006, 05:02 PM
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New Ad Tells of Bush Killing Roughly 655,000
There is an ad coming out about some democrack....where the new idea from the dis=information squad says Bush has killed 655,000 Iraqis.
Of course they leave it at that. When the actual death caused by military forces is 31% of that number, a little over 20300. Considering it is a war... that is a relatively small figure.
451,950 Iraqi's have been killed by terrorist trying to destablize the nation's voted interest.
Who is backing them? democracks !!!!
Why do you have to lie like that? Lying like that tells me you think you have almost nothing going for a person to vote for. And you don't.
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10-11-2006, 05:11 PM
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Ten out of ten terrorist recomend voting Democrat
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10-11-2006, 05:30 PM
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I saw this article today. In it, the Center for Strategic and International Studies said they doubted the figures. They felt they were inflated due to the way the survey was conducted, which house to house and then on top of that some estimation.
Before anyone says the CSIS is a biased source for the administration, it is a private think tank which is headed by John Hamre, who was assistant secretatry of defense under Clinton. Sam Nunn is also active on the board.
I don't know what the true number would be. I would probably estimate it somewhere between a high figure given and a low number given. I would imagine it would be pretty tough to come up with a true number, but officials in Iraq have said that this number is too high.
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10-11-2006, 05:34 PM
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I was listening to NPR about this. The people that support the survey say that it has a huge margin of error with the larger margin on the bottom. It was collected by random survey (at a graveyard? that's where I would look for family of dead people), they admit that the size of the survey isn't very large, and that it was done hastily. I don't think that this is exactly credible.
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10-11-2006, 05:37 PM
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This morning George bush said he does not accept those figures, and I have no first hand knowledge but i would imagine most of the Iraqi deaths can be chalked up to the secretarian and criminal violence, and not the colation forces
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10-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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This is the same report that came out on the Lancet and we discussed here a couple of weeks ago. Apparently someone got the information, either from the Lancet or elsewhere and now they're claiming that it is "due to come out on the Lancet." To anyone on these forums, that should be a clue that the validity of this report is extremely suspect. Could it be that this information was fed to the Lancet and they accidentally released it too early, so the Dems are pushing it to the mainstream media now with claims that it's a brand new report?
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10-11-2006, 07:43 PM
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It was done by John Hopkins... I kinda believe what these guys have to say... don't you?
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10-11-2006, 07:58 PM
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Military figures based on actual body counts. Not estimates and projected computer modeling.
It also ignores the NIE numbers.
But why does the democracks have to lie?
Looks like they might be getting us ready for how they will conduct themselves.
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10-11-2006, 08:00 PM
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yeah... you're right... by the NIE numbers we have only killed 100,000 people... that is so much better. No wonder iraqis are either killing us or trying to leave... dope
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10-11-2006, 08:01 PM
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Deepsees... you really just don't get it do you?
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