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Old 10-01-2006, 10:41 PM
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It makes sense. Each ethnic group fighting over power, give them power of their own regions. I know many publicaly don't support this idea becuz they somehow see it as a negitive but don't think its that bad of an idea. It would probably reduce the violence.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:47 PM
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How would you divide the oil area up?
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Old 10-01-2006, 11:51 PM
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Roman, it is very funny you should post this because when I caught 'Face The Nation' this morning Joe Biden was talking about the Iraq war and the Bob Woodward book (and addressed this issue). I did not necessarily find the comments on the book very informative because there is a lot of 'he said, she said' about this. My point is that Biden and Bob Scheiffer got to a juncture in the conversation about which party does have plan to end this or take it in a different/constructive direction.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2054306.shtml

I went to the CBS site and I am sorry they do not seem to have transcribed that last part of this which I found the most important part. Biden ends up there (your point) towards the end but not before being very critical of the current direction of the administration's plan; he expands on 'staying the course' is a bad option and Rumsfeld should resign.

Then, after that Biden does try to be constructive and offer an alternative. He proposes a political/diplomatic solution that divides Iraq into three 'sectors.'

You also bring up a good point that Biden was not going to expand on. I think Biden is right and I personally have used his points in many posts but it does get complicated when talking about commodities and natural resources. This is very important because oil is the big thing in this really. Those who have the gold make the rules and that should not be overlooked when considering the battle between Shiites and Sunnis. Kurds are at such a disadvantage as a minority they are going to have a rough time when negociating a solution to all this.

I do believe in this and have for a long time (the three sectors), it takes the region to a place that is what the true ethnic make-up of what it is dating back to Mesopotamia.
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Old 10-02-2006, 12:30 AM
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Good Point CM
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:02 AM
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I say that's up to the Iraqi's.
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:09 AM
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This is another 'joke' thread...
Hypothetically it may sound good to you suburbanites that ponder this while on your deck drinking latte....
But in the real international world...this idea is a far fetch.
A lot of democraps are spewing chunks over the spread of democracy in iraq...Let alone splicing up their territory into cultural neighborhoods.
This idea may have worked itself out fine in the cities of the US, perhaps not so complimentary to iraqis who already have dibs on acres of land and property in particular areas.
It would be a positive to see iraq workout its territory into cultural barriors, maybe they will be more able to devise this after terrorism is defeated.
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:29 AM
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This is another 'joke' thread...
Hypothetically it may sound good to you suburbanites that ponder this while on your deck drinking latte....
But in the real international world...this idea is a far fetch.
A lot of democraps are spewing chunks over the spread of democracy in iraq...Let alone splicing up their territory into cultural neighborhoods.
This idea may have worked itself out fine in the cities of the US, perhaps not so complimentary to iraqis who already have dibs on acres of land and property in particular areas.
It would be a positive to see iraq workout its territory into cultural barriors, maybe they will be more able to devise this after terrorism is defeated.
What are you talking about??? Do you even realize there is a civil war in Iraq going on? You probably have not read your history of the Middle East too well I bet. Do you even realize what happened after the British left the area after WWI? Terrorists are in all countries moving from place to place but within Iraq right now it has been taken aback to the original problems that have been festering for long time which does have to to with three distinct regions that have existed for a lot longer than the US has been existence. You need to get some reading in my friend...do you propose just dropping 'the bomb' and it wil solve ALL OUR problems?
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:31 AM
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I say that's up to the Iraqi's.
Ultimately it will be...but how does this effect why and what are we doing there?
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:11 AM
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The middle east has a notorious history for fighting over land and who it belongs too. Just how is this theory to play out?
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Old 10-02-2006, 11:35 AM
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I don't know if Iraq should split or not. That seems to be the worldwide tendency as of late, e.g., Europe. But, I can guarantee this is not what the Bush Administrations wants.
- Fighting over the oil fields could lead to all out war with others like Iran, Saudi Arabia getting involved.
- Kurds/Turkey dichotomy could lead to more violence in the north.
- Who do you think the Iraqi Shiites would ally themselves with, Iran or the US? Iran becomes more influential and, hence, powerful. And the Shiites just happen to sit on a large pool of oil.
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