i read in yahoo news that even some newly-retired generals are going to expose lies made by the bush admin, rumsfeld in particular.

how does this administration still have support?? so many lies. are people so stubborn that they will always support these guys no matter what they may do? is there anything, anything at all, that this admin could do to make you realize that they are doing many wrong things?

is it that the bush supporters don't want to admit they were wrong?? or do you think they have been conditioned to not care if their own government lies to them?

my opinion is that some just don't care about much anything at all. they don't see the seriousness of this situation and say immature things like "NUKE EM ALL" and "PUT THOSE ASSHATS IN CAGES". and some people i fear are just plain stupid. (thats not an insult, many humans are born this way, they cant help it) for example, ive seen "christians" that support government torture camps.

I am not sure what these retired generals can say that hasn't already been said. Beleive it or not the active military does support the president.

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This is supposed to be taken seriously?
The left has a history in lies and the creation of many many lies, so if your're looking for lies~ the left will gladly provide you with plenty.
Did you see bubbas interview?
Bush is questioned in this fashion everytime the media can get at him.
Bubba practically grabbed at his crotch in anxiety over legitimate questions.
LIE's are a by-product of a democarp party.
You can read all the blogs, listen to air america, and clearly, if you have any intelligence, you can see the eqivocal nature, the hype in their reported journalism.
This clintonian interview exemplified the antipathy of the democarp party towards the actions of a GW administration.
There is NO WAY bubba would have put himself in the position that GWBUSH represents today.
It's just not a favourable position.
President clinton chose negligence and left us with the sqirming worm of vomit who says he tried.
Ordering missiles to bomb terrorist territories and then walking away in reluctance, is negligent and antagonistic.
Ordering missiles and then professing his powers are limited in apprehending bin laden as a president of the USA.
- IS prevaricating the powers of a president, a leader of a nation.
Stating that back in 1998 al qaida did not exist - is a lie.
According to clinton, Dick Clarke had more power and intelligence then clinton himself, we should read his book!
Gee, GW didn't allow a dismissive advisory or reluctance of his constituents to sway him from the fact that terrorism is a growing problem to the US.
Bush saw what was coming and took a stand.
So, while BUSH is called warmonger, liar, neocon, murderer and all the other explatives and criticism he forges on with a consistent effort against legitmate threats to our homeland.
Lets look at statements here:
[b]bubba [/B]""OK, now let’s look at all the criticisms: Black Hawk down, Somalia. There is not a living soul in the world who thought that Osama bin Laden had anything to do with Black Hawk down or was paying any attention to it or even knew Al Qaida was a growing concern in October of ‘93.""
Correct, bj clinton wasn't paying attention.
Why not?
If our soldiers were on sudan homeland, what would be the reason they were there?
Clinton was informed by sudanese leaders-sudan had track of bin laden, egypt had track of bin laden, britain had track of bin laden...
Apparently sudan, the saudis, afganistan, egypt, britain were paying attention!
but bubba smoked a douched cigar...
Bubba left the responsibility to the UN and just like his fool for oil deal, he was negligent.
Oh yeah, he "tried."

FACT: ""[US Congress, 7/24/2003] Evidence suggests that the government of Sudan and Hassan al-Turabi, Sudan’s leader, know where bin Laden is living and helped support the plot. The United Nations Security Council places sanctions on Sudan as a result. The US examines options for attacking bin Laden and/or al-Turabi’s facilities in the Sudanese capital. The options developed by the US military are rejected for being unstealthy and a de facto war on Sudan. In the ensuing months, there are reports of Egyptian covert operations against bin Laden and an Egyptian military build-up on the Sudanese border. These factors influence bin Laden’s decision to move to Afghanistan in 1996 (see May 18, 1996). [Clarke, 2004, pp. 140-41]

Early 1996-October 1998: US Tracks bin Laden’s Satellite Phone Calls During this period, bin Laden and Mohammed Atef, his military commander, use a satellite phone provided by a friend to direct al-Qaeda’s operations. Its use is discontinued two months after a US missile strike against bin Laden’s camps on August 20, 1998, when an unnamed senior official boasts that the US can track his movements through the use of the phone. [Sunday Times (London), 3/24/2002] Records show “Britain was at the heart of the terrorist’s planning for his worldwide campaign of murder and destruction.” 260 calls were made to 27 phone numbers in Britain. The other countries called were Yemen (over 200 calls), Sudan (131), Iran (106), Azerbaijan (67), Pakistan (59), Saudi Arabia (57), a ship in the Indian Ocean (13), the US (6), Italy (6), Malaysia (4), and Senegal (2). “The most surprising omission is Iraq, with not a single call recorded.” [Sunday Times (London), 3/24/2002]
Entity Tags: Mohammed Atef, Osama bin Laden, al-Qaeda""

The left will be scrambling eggs, pulling every possible dubious string against the principles of Bush' administration decisions.
Of course they will, bubba looks like an idiot now and his legacy just doesn't agree with the truth!

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so am i to understand that the reason these people still support this lying administration is because all the other ones are just as bad if not worse?

ok i see.. they are the lesser of two evils...

but that's not a very good reason to support something is it?? just because there are worse things out there?

Hexum, I have voted in every Presidental election since Nixon/McGovern. I have only voted Democratic once and that was for Peanut Carter.

I have had to many times select the lesser of 2 evils. This is our system.

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Rob, I'm glad you see the bush admin as evil.. we are in agreement!

But there are some believe that this administration is doing good.. and I can't see how a government who lies and all the rest can be considered good. How can you trust somebody who has repeatedly lied?

So the Democrats find some retired Generals that support thier position and sponser an event and make a fuss. So what. The current military still supports our leaders. Those are the guys that count. Did Rummy make mistakes. Yes. Johnson and JFK made mistakes in Vietnam. I didn't hear anyone calling for them to be impeached or resign. What will settle this issue is the November elections. If Republicans still hold the House and Senate in November then we know that the people still support them and most likley the president. So lets wait and see what happens in November.

Don't turn this into a Bush lied debate. You will loose.

hexum, I said that many times the voter has to choose the lesser of 2 evils. I personaly would have prefered that Bush had selected Elizabeth Dole as his running mate and then found someone more qualified to handel the defense department.

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the only reason we have to chose the lesser of two evils is because people will support clowns like bush and clinton. they vote for (r) or (d), not the candidate themselves. bush was elected not because he was some great choice, but because people were angry at bill clinton. the lesser of two evils is just another name for a slow path to hell.