So the 'payback' for collateral damage is to blow up your neighbor

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You are right that when Saddam was in power there were no car bombs going off. In it's place were torture rooms, suspected traitors being put into paper shreaders either head or feet first (depending on the mood), there were rape rooms. I recall one story where there was a marriage and Uday showed up, liked the new bride, raped her in front of the groom, shot her, beat him and then shot him and some of the guests as well. I think I'd rather go in a car bomb. What you are doing is really splitting hairs.

You know, the fact that we were promised this whole "Shock & Awe" battle that never materialized is part of the problem we have there today. We have these missle systems designed exclusively NOT to hit targets that aren't suspected of terrorists. have you not noticed that Baghdad is still standing? Did you not notice that when the air attacks first began they were taking out pre-designed targets? They just didn't carpet bomb the country as maybe they should have. They picked and chose their spots. So get off of this indignation that you seem to feel that all we do is kill people who don't deserve to be killed because as far as war in-itself this country has bent over backwards to MINIMIZE civilan casualties. Certainly can't say the same for those people we're fighting.

Wake Up!

...unless one considers depleated uranium contamination which is pretty serious. But that effects everyone, including OUR soldiers and neighboring countries.

[quote=RASTAMAN;37100]When Saddam was in power there were no car bombs going off killing innocent Iraqi people. Also, how many women and childern have died since Mar 03 as the direct result of collateral damage or indirectly due to our occupation!!!!! Imagine how you or I would feel to see our children and wives blown to mist b/c of collateral damage. Wouldn't you want REVENGE!!! I know I sure is hell would.

Iraq has turned into a BASKET CASE:

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When the US was attacked, did americans go out, strap bombs to themselves and blow up shopping malls. No.

Do you deny that the turmoil in Iraq is the release of pent up hatred between the clashing sides? These are Iraquis blowing each other up. Not the US blowing them up.

Be honest.

If the US gets attacked again, I will be seeking asylum in Central America (I have family there) until it all blows over. While many discuss this issue as "how should the US react to the enemy", I personally have nothing to do with that (or my opinion means nothing on that issue.) I just want to get out of the crossfire. However, this may not be possible since international flights (domestic too?) may not be available for awhile.

I won't go as far as saying who would be responsible, but we all know that the entire US population would essentially be on "lock-down" and I do not look forward to that lifestyle. If an impossible liquid threat has the airlines taking asinine measures in the name of security, and Katrina victoms were forced into a sports complex and not allowed to leave, imagine what we citizens would be in for.

I'm not the captain so I sure as heck am not going down with the ship!

Good day. Insomnia has intruduced me to this site, & I am so far disheartened to see the extreme sides everyone seems to hold on to. I wish to make some comments on what I have seen in this post so far:

I saw a signature that began with "America Land of the Free Home of The Brave" ...I agree, However this is a direct result of its people, not because of any document.

& Scoody Boo, you rascist simpleton, I wonder if your hatred goes beyond those of muslim faith.Take the mormons, this is an extreme sect of the christian religion, do you believe we should blow up Utah, too? Naw, wouldn't wanna do that, all those christian morals & values. Of course, we have this Mr. Warren Jeffs, the mormon polygamist & self proclaimed "prophet" who allows his faithful to work for his construction companies, for no pay, forcing all of them on welfare, and removing the daughters of these families to be raped, molested, & forced to breed with old polygamist men. That sounds like radical extremist behavior to me. But I dont hear the "kill all muslims" idiots calling for a "kill all christians" movement. Of course the point being that with any effort you can find extremists within any large faith movements. Expand your mind, friend, & remove the blinders of "My way is better than your way".

Another signature spoke of our "christian founders," & their "belief in Jesus Christ",.... Our founding fathers kept religion out of the framework of the U.S. because they understood that religion is a personal belief, & loses its legitimacy when used by authoritarians as a means to supress & control their populous.

I'll finish up with a commment aimed at the foolhardy statements about basing our wars on the nationality of individual lunatics. I certainly wouldn't want the U.S. to be held accountable for the whackos we set loose on the world. To follow this logic, we would have anihilated Mexico by now, Their citizens break more U.S. laws on a daily basis than any other country!

I hope we can begin to see that tending to extreme ideas, left, right, or whatever, leads us nowhere. And solves nothing. In the meantime we lose our friends & families to wars without solutions.We need to approach each situation with fewer preconcieved notions, & a clearer, more objective mind. This is how we will come together with solutions, or at least a few ideas!

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Supposedly, the threat is to have an American Hiroshima during Ramadan. I understand that to be a threat that an American city will have a nuclear explosion by the next new moon.

If they do pull that off, I would:

A. Ten Megaton undergroundground burst right under that rock in Mecca that they circle around. The resulting crater would be about a mile or two wide and about a half a mile deep, and highly radioactive. The land around it would be radioactive too.

B. Medina would be hit with a ten Megaton air-burst.

That would be for the purpose of hitting all Muslims, everywhere. It would demonstrate that Allah can't protect his most holy sites.

One Ohio class submarine has about 336 nuclear warheads, independently targetable, (150 kilotons each - IIRC) on ICBMs. One sub each would be assigned to Iran, Sryia, and North Korea. Three trouble maker countries would be eliminated from the earth. All warheads would be air bursts so as not to create fallout. The Mecca burst, being a ground burst would have strong fallout, but it would be only one burst. Almost all of the fallout would land on empty desert.

All other Muslim countries would be told that they must immediately control their population, and root out their terrorists - or else. Immams that preach hate must be executed.

Israel would be given a free hand to deal with Hezbollah as they saw fit.

We would then quit playing around with being nice to prisioners. They would be made to talk - no restrictions of any kind at all as to methods of interogation. NONE.

Media would be made to understand that revealing secret anti-terror operations would be an instant death sentence for the editors of that media, other senior staff, and the reporters that broke the story. This would be ex-post-facto. In other words, the New York Times would be made an example of for their treason in revealing how intel was being gathered on terrorists.

The UN would be ordered to leave US soil, immediately. The US would no longer be a member.

Peace protestors would be denounced as treasonous bastards who applaud the strike on the U.S. The American people would be asked to deal with them directly. There would be no penalties.

NSA, FBI, CIA, DEA, BATF, and other alphabet agencies would be told to share ALL information. Everybody help everybody. Any official who tried to protect bureaucratic turf, purely for the sake of turf, would be executed - quickly. All personnel would be reminded that they are there to protect America, NOT for personal turf battles.

That would be done during what remained of the day of the attack. Then I would think a bit on what to do next.

That is rather strong and is sure to make many of the liberals here upset, but remember - this is a response to a nuking, NOT a response to a car bomb somewhere.

Contrary to popular liberal belief, depleted uranium is NOT highly radioactive. Most leftists don't know much science since most of them study stuff that doesn't have right and wrong answers.

The longer the half-life, the less active something is. With a half-life of 4.5 billion years, DU is, for all practical purposes, not radioactive at all. The dangerous stuff has half-lives on the order of minutes. That is a physical fact that no amount of screaming or demonstrations will change.

And you just happen to have all this hidden away in your garage, do you? What state is that you live in? Just wanna make sure I'm not a close neighbor.

Sorry, I thought the question meant what I would do if I were President.

On second look it means what I, personally, would do. Assuming I wasn't close to the nuked city, go on living best I could and vote Republican.