Okay DOM1, I understand your MO on this topic; you are trying to steer me into making a comment on something I never had an opinion of in the first place right or wrong. The other poster made their opinion on it -- so does that mean I must also b/c you said so?

I stated my opinions and made my arguments on this topic---my post are there for all posters to review. I made my comments and have not and will not badger or harrassed the poster(s) for a response on our argument nor have I challenged the poster to a DEBATE. That's not my style. I make my argument and I move on to the next topic.

Now if you want to argue my responses on this topic I will gladly argue back with you. However, if you have nothing to argue about on my reponse with a poster---consider this issue dead.

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Actually I don't think you understand much of anything.

So in other words you refuse to condemn the words of someone who wants to sing and dance while Amercia gets attacked but you rebuked two posters who did respond to that statement.

How hard is for anyone to say I don't think that dancing and singing is the proper response when America gets hit? I would also say that an American should have an opinion on this, unless they just didn't care one way or another.

Not hard for me. I wish someone would say that when they are in the same room as me. I would absolutely beat the piss out of them, and I have little doubt that I could.

Alright, you criticized the use of bunker bombs. Seems kind of stupid to criticize those. Would it be better if we sent a bunch of men into a cave after them or just dropped a bomb which weighs a couple of tons? It seems like a no-brainer to me. I don't care if people are pissed about it. It is not like we are dropping these things on innocent people. If you are hiding in a cave with terrorists you are one.

Like I said, read my post on this topic. Spin it anyway you want to. I Argued my point on the use of BUNKER BUSTERs thats the right of every poster to Argue--we are not supposed to agree and "Sing Cumm-by-YA"

If you choose to critize then do so----but don't assume everyone should do it.

By the way how do you justify or explain away the "SHOCK-N-AWE" bombing we rained downed on innocent Iraqi men, women, and children who never harmed nor hated a single American citzen!!

You see DOM1 back in 2003 when we began SHOCK-N-AWE Diplomacy and offered freedom and Democracy thru the use of dropping 500 lbs bombs on innocent Iraqi civilians, what do you want to bet as millions of Iraqi's who saw loves killed by our bombs and collateral damage have pledge revenge against AMERICA! Ya think we made some enemies.

How may these guys exact their revenge? They have no standing conventional armies, nor high tech air force, nor smart weapons. So how is a 3rd world country citizen who has been victimized by collateral damage, traumatized by endless killing and chaos, wittnessed and survived SHOCK-N-AWE bombing and seen their love ones blown into mist!!

Had you yourself endured and survived the afore mentioned what would you attempt to do to seek your revenge? These guys are going to want some payback--I know I would and so would any other American if we were invaded and occupied by a foreign govenment and you watch your neighborhood, city, state, and country SHOCKED-N-AWED.

I hope America never endures another terrorist attack nor another 911 or worse. However, if it were to happen the points I have made already as well as 50 years of imperialistic exploitive foreign policies and diplomacies will have played of heavy factor.

ITS A LOT DEEPER AND COMPLICATED THAN "THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS"

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They hated us before 2003, 9/11 is an example. People all over the world celebrated that fact. This undermines the claim that Bush made the world hate us. No way he could pull that off in seven or eight months. We were attacked by terrorist even as early as 1993, they said the only reason they did not bring the towers down then was becasue of lack of funding. The attacks continued throughout the 1990's, which makes it a argument filled with nonsense to say that Bush is the only reason they hate us. They hate us for a number of reasons, which does not mean that we should cave to any demands just because they hate us.

The bunker busters are not being used on civilians. Our military tried the best they could to avoid civilian casualties. I would like anyone to point out a war where civilians were not killed or a war in which so much effort went into not killing civilians. I owuld say that the vast majority of the Iraqis dying from Americans right now are not civilians either. As soon as they placed that first road side bomb or picked up that gun they relinquished that civilian status.

Yes civilains will die, but I don't believe that the US military is making it policy to attack civilians.

I also think that anyone who would "sing and dance" if America gets hit again is either an enemy or would be if given a chance.

Your just a fucking idiot who deserves to be raped anally with rubbing ethol on the end of a corkscrew. May your days on this earth be minimal, you useless bitch.

Comon Rob, is that all you got out of my post. You are old enough and been around long enough to know better. You know you're not in your twenties anymore. You are a well traveled vet with many years of common sense. I expect better from you. SERIOUSLY.

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Rasta is one of the reason I posted the remember thread. He seems to froget what happened 5 years ago and who did it. Sad

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We all remember what happened five years ago. And Iraq wasn't involved. Rasta realizes that and so should everyone else. The war that we started is the reason Iraq is a terrorist haven now. Five years ago Iraq sucked, but it wasn't home of psycho extremists either. Whether we finally win Iraq or not the next generation of fanactics has already been formed by our failed execution of this war.

This thread was about if we were attacked again and it doesn't matter by who. The fact of the matter is that there are some people out there who would "sing and dance" if we are attaccked, as stated.

The people who talk about "the next generation" of fanatics really get me. Do you see the education systems of some of these people? Many are taught fanatacism, plain and simple. As if there would be no more terrorists if we hadn't went into Iraq, ridiculous. I'll say that there have always been "psycho extremists" and that it is an ideology that is taught to many. There are plenty of examples out there that people just don't make themselves aware of because it is so much easier just to find a single blame, and of course the US is always a favorite target of some.

Hussein and his sons weren't "psycho extremists"? They weren't paying families of terrorist suicidal bombers $25,000 a pop to detonate themselves in public shops? They DIDN'T use wmd's during the war with Iran? They didn't a nuclear facility that Israel took care of in 1981? They weren't mass murdering their own-let alone the Kurds? There haven't been mass graves discovered of the remains of innocent Iraqi men, women and children? They didn't violate 17 UN resolutions over a 15 year period? Shall I go on and on and on?

Interesting that some of the same voices that are continually bashing this war effort in Iraq are the same people trying to pressure the UN to engage in a battle in Darfur. What's really the difference?