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T_Ereponemos · #1 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 05:08 PM

Bush misused Iraq intelligence: Senate report - Yahoo! News

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush and his top policymakers misstated Saddam Hussein's links to terrorism and ignored doubts among intelligence agencies about Iraq's arms programs as they made a case for war, the Senate intelligence committee reported on Thursday.
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The report shows an administration that "led the nation to war on false premises," said the committee's Democratic Chairman, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia. Several Republicans on the committee protested its findings as a "partisan exercise."

The committee studied major speeches by Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in advance of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, and compared key assertions with intelligence available at the time.

Statements that Iraq had a partnership with al Qaeda were wrong and unsupported by intelligence, the report said.

It said that Bush's and Cheney's assertions that Saddam was prepared to arm terrorist groups with weapons of mass destruction for attacks on the United States contradicted available intelligence.

Such assertions had a strong resonance with a U.S. public, still reeling after al Qaeda's September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. Polls showed that many Americans believed Iraq played a role in the attacks, even long after Bush acknowledged in September 2003 that there was no evidence Saddam was involved.

The report also said administration prewar statements on Iraq's weapons programs were backed up in most cases by available U.S. intelligence, but officials failed to reflect internal debate over those findings, which proved wrong.

So when will they tell us the real reason?

Badmutha · #2 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by T_Ereponemos

So when will they tell us the real reason?

I have one better....with all these investigations......shouldnt the defeat invested democrat party be able to tell us???

What was Bush's real reason???...or does he just hate Iraqis--as well as black people??

What reward was so tempting.....that Bush decided to send his own legacy and approval rating in the toilet??

T_Ereponemos · #3 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 05:30 PM

Easy Oil! Nectar of the rich.

Badmutha · #4 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by T_Ereponemos

Easy Oil! Nectar of the rich.

Of course...all together now.....No Blood For Oil--No Blood For Oil

So I must ask......if we went into Iraq to steal their oil......where is it????

Where are Bush and Cheney hiding it at??

Stryker · #5 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmutha

Of course...all together now.....No Blood For Oil--No Blood For Oil

So I must ask......if we went into Iraq to steal their oil......where is it????

Where are Bush and Cheney hiding it at??

Youre asking the impossible of liberals. They make wild accusations but can never back them up with logic or reason. Its a lot like the 9/11 truthers, when asking them how many people it would take to dynamite the world trade center and how such explosives would be hidden from those who work there, they explode with Bush = Hitler and go into a frantic crisis mode.

freedomlover1 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmutha

I have one better....with all these investigations......shouldnt the defeat invested democrat party be able to tell us???

What was Bush's real reason???...or does he just hate Iraqis--as well as black people??

What reward was so tempting.....that Bush decided to send his own legacy and approval rating in the toilet??

At the time he thought it would be a boost to his legacy and approval rating. He thought it would be a walk in the park, that we would go in, race to Baghdad, capture Saddam and walk away. Remember? "The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms". "Mission Accomplished". Too bad his arrogance got in the way, he fired (forced out) those that would have known what they were doing, and he so badly "misjudged" the situation. He would have literally been an "American War-Time Hero President".

NAT · #7 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freedomlover1

At the time he thought it would be a boost to his legacy and approval rating. He thought it would be a walk in the park, that we would go in, race to Baghdad, capture Saddam and walk away. Remember? "The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms". "Mission Accomplished". Too bad his arrogance got in the way, he fired (forced out) those that would have known what they were doing, and he so badly "misjudged" the situation. He would have literally been an "American War-Time Hero President".

Agreed.
Blinky was so pumped up with the "success" in Afghanistan he pulled out troops before the mission was solidified, and went after Saddam since the dictator has "sullied" his popa's riegn as president.

And now Blinky expects us to invade Iran on the same type of suppositions and deciet?

freedomlover1 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NAT

Agreed.
Blinky was so pumped up with the "success" in Afghanistan he pulled out troops before the mission was solidified, and went after Saddam since the dictator has "sullied" his popa's riegn as president.

And now Blinky expects us to invade Iran on the same type of suppositions and deciet?

Personally, I think Bush knew he would have trouble getting Bin Laden, he had already talked tough, and he NEEDED a new bad guy, where he thought he would meet very little resistance. Bush SR did exactly what he set out to do, and he did it in very short order. I think that is what JR was hoping for, only Bush SR followed his advisor's advice, JR got rid of anyone who disagreed with him.

Badmutha · #9 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Youre asking the impossible of liberals. They make wild accusations but can never back them up with logic or reason. Its a lot like the 9/11 truthers, when asking them how many people it would take to dynamite the world trade center and how such explosives would be hidden from those who work there, they explode with Bush = Hitler and go into a frantic crisis mode.

I agree completely.....liberals are bad enough.....but the 9/11 truthers have a mindset completely absent of reality.......to think the US government can plan and pull of the biggest conspiracy in history....perfectly...without a hitch........well they must be smoking the good shit

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Originally Posted by freedomlover1

At the time he thought it would be a boost to his legacy and approval rating. He thought it would be a walk in the park, that we would go in, race to Baghdad, capture Saddam and walk away. Remember? "The Iraqi people will welcome us with open arms". "Mission Accomplished". Too bad his arrogance got in the way, he fired (forced out) those that would have known what they were doing, and he so badly "misjudged" the situation. He would have literally been an "American War-Time Hero President".

Well E.T. says its fortune...and you say its glory......hmmmm...

Well Freedom.....your theory of Bush's quest for glory....it still relies on Bush misrepresenting the pre-war information, as well as misleading the entire country...to get his glory war started...does it not??

Are you going to tell me Bush thought no one would ever review or validate his justifications at some point? I mean cmon...the democrat party??..who investigates anything and everything.

Was Bush risking his legacy on the chance that democrats would not investigate every bit of the Iraq War....I dont think so

Bush just didnt start bombing Iraq one day...he tried diplomacy....he tried letting inspectors do their job. There was only one person that had the power to avoid this war.........Sadam......and he chose not too.

Lets say Sadam would have let the inspectors complete their job......and it was verified Sadam had no WMD's......what was Bush's plan B??....attack Mexico??

Bush saw a threat....and he moved to extinguish it. Fault him as you may.....if Bin Laden had been eliminated by Clinton...rather than passed up...we wouldnt have had 9/11....we wouldnt have had the Afghanastan War or the Iraq war for that matter.

Every president that has made the decision to take this country to war......has made the case why we should...rather than why we shoudnt....Bush was no different

Like so many liberals..you have deemed this war non-justified....question is....what would have changed your mind....I mean before the liberal media changed it for you??

freedomlover1 · #10 (**permalink**) 06-05-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmutha

I agree completely.....liberals are bad enough.....but the 9/11 truthers have a mindset completely absent of reality.......to think the US government can plan and pull of the biggest conspiracy in history....perfectly...without a hitch........well they must be smoking the good shit

Well E.T. says its fortune...and you say its glory......hmmmm...

Well Freedom.....your theory of Bush's quest for glory....it still relies on Bush misrepresenting the pre-war information, as well as misleading the entire country...to get his glory war started...does it not??

I believe he did. And there are plenty of people from his camp that say he did.

Are you going to tell me Bush thought no one would ever review or validate his justifications at some point? I mean cmon...the democrat party??..who investigates anything and everything.

Why would anyone investigate, if he could get in and out fast? No one would question it, and besides, the Republicans were in control of all government bodies at the time, remember. By the time the Dems would have had a chance (2004, 2006), it should have been long over with.

And you want to talk about calling the kettle black. The democrats haven't investigated near enough or as much as the republicans during the 90's. Remember the bill that Kenny ran up to find out Bill had a blow job?

Was Bush risking his legacy on the chance that democrats would not investigate every bit of the Iraq War....I dont think so

Answered above. Besides, that is the beauty of arrogance. You think that you are above such things.

Bush just didnt start bombing Iraq one day...he tried diplomacy....he tried letting inspectors do their job. There was only one person that had the power to avoid this war.........Sadam......and he chose not too.

Bullshit. Bush took office in January, 2001. We were attacked on September, 2001 (and Iraq had nothing to do with it), and Bush started building a case for going after Iraq in November, 2001. Bush doesn't know the meaning of the word Diplomacy.

Lets say Sadam would have let the inspectors complete their job......and it was verified Sadam had no WMD's......what was Bush's plan B??....attack Mexico??

He had his axis of evil. One of them would have given him an excuse.

And no, not Mexico. I think he wants to just let them take over the US.

Bush saw a threat....and he moved to extinguish it. Fault him as you may.....if Bin Laden had been eliminated by Clinton...rather than passed up...we wouldnt have had 9/11....we wouldnt have had the Afghanastan War or the Iraq war for that matter.

Fault Clinton if you want to. It doesn't change the FACT that Bush has walked away from going after those that attacked us. Bush had the backing of ALL of the US and most of the world. He blew it, period.

And Iraq wasn't a threat. They were completely and utterly contained. Saddam was soooo marginalized. Bush walked away from the threat, when he pulled resources away from going after Al Qaeda.

Every president that has made the decision to take this country to war......has made the case why we should...rather than why we shoudnt....Bush was no different

Like so many liberals..you have deemed this war non-justified....question is....what would have changed your mind....I mean before the liberal media changed it for you??

Nothing would have changed my mind about Iraq, not then, not now and it has nothing to do with the media. Afghanistan was a justifiable war. I can get 100% behind that. Iraq was this Presidents war of choice and opportunity and he blew it.