If true, this is a bunch of hooey...

Revealed: Secret plan to keep Iraq under US control - Middle East, World - The Independent

There has been a permanent operating military base in Kuwait.

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"The truth of the matter is that you always know the right thing to do; the hard part is doing it."

"There are instruments so dangerous to the rights of the nation and which place them so totally at the mercy of their governors that those governors, whether legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such instruments on foot but in well-defined cases. Such an instrument is a standing army." --Thomas Jefferson to David Humphreys, 1789. ME 7:323

"I do not like [in the new Federal Constitution] the omission of a Bill of Rights providing clearly and without the aid of sophisms for... protection against standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. ME 6:387

"Nor is it conceived needful or safe that a standing army should be kept up in time of peace for [defense against invasion]." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Annual Message, 1801. ME 3:334

"Standing armies [are] inconsistent with [a people's] freedom and subversive of their quiet." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Lord North's Proposition, 1775. Papers 1:231

"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." --Thomas Jefferson to Chandler Price, 1807. ME 11:160

"A distinction between the civil and military [is one] which it would be for the good of the whole to obliterate as soon as possible." --Thomas Jefferson: Answers to de Meusnier Questions, 1786. ME 17:90

"It is nonsense to talk of regulars. They are not to be had among a people so easy and happy at home as ours. We might as well rely on calling down an army of angels from heaven." --Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1814. ME 14:207

"There shall be no standing army but in time of actual war." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. Papers 1:363

"The Greeks and Romans had no standing armies, yet they defended themselves. The Greeks by their laws, and the Romans by the spirit of their people, took care to put into the hands of their rulers no such engine of oppression as a standing army. Their system was to make every man a soldier and oblige him to repair to the standard of his country whenever that was reared. This made them invincible; and the same remedy will make us so." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, 1814. ME 14:184

"Bonaparte... transferred the destinies of the republic from the civil to the military arm. Some will use this as a lesson against the practicability of republican government. I read it as a lesson against the danger of standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Adams, 1800. ME 10:154

Yes its true. They planned all along to stay in Iraq like McCain says for the next hundred years.

Britian is so proud of the US its off spring. First Britain managed to try to take over the resources of the world and then their bastard child America took over and is really doing what Britain was not big enough to do. They must be so proud.

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Israel is proud of both Great Britain and the USA. We've been good children.

LOL, so you enjoy being lumped together with Canuck and Icy, do ya.

>>>It's true. It's been true ever since the Shah fell. Israel (the keeper of our foreign policy) just sleeps better with 150,000 U.S. troops covering its east.

We are more like paid prostitutes for Israel.

Trust me they don't consider us children. We are just like dogs to them, nice to have around if we do as we are told.

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>>>Icy (as far as I can tell) is a winger who doesn't like Jews. I just don't like Jewish neocons.

Canuck knows what's goin' on. So go ahead and lump.

>>>Yeah, except I'm not getting paid. What does that make me?