Can anyone do this for me?

A. Crowley · #11 (**permalink**) 06-13-2008, 12:20 AM

Enlist to infantry, bitch.

noneof yourbusiness · #12 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 01:14 PM

you couldnt answer you own question you little wanna be fucker.

noneof yourbusiness · #13 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 01:25 PM

Mhdi and SAdr is all you really need to know about. American policy? What American policy. Floundering around in there paying off the largest militant groups and hoping t doesnt fall part. Dont tell me its more complicated then that. Media might portray to as such. But you people are all way to long winded and thats the basic nutshell.

noneof yourbusiness · #14 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 01:29 PM

Why do you name the rest of them you fucking little turd.

StormanNorman · #15 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Since everyone else seems to be so in the know about the situation on the ground over there, who can tell me the dynamics of the fight. Tell me who we were fighting in different areas of the country, how they operate, how we operate. Walk us through the details, the changes that have been made to our own policies, to the insurgency, to the Iraqi people and to the Iraqi government.

Then finish it off by explaining whats going on in Iraq today, comparing it to the country as it was in February of 2007. Prove to me you really know what it is you think youre talking about.

OK Stryker, I'll give it a go:

Iraq is made up of predominantly three groups:
1) Arab Sunnis who occupy Western/Middle Iraq; main cities include Ramadi, Falluja, and the Al Anbar province.
2) Arab Shia who occupy the south and Southeastern Iraq; main cities include Basrah (very important oil center), Al Kut, Al Amarah, Karbala, etc.
3) The Kurds who occupy northern Iraq (along with Southeastern Turkey); main cities include Kirkuk (another very important oil center) and other towns.

Of course, there was intermixing along the boundaries of these regions in places like Baghdad (obviously, a very important city), Mosul, and, initially, Kirkuk....although I think the Sunni Arabs have been more or less forced out of Kirkuk. The key thing to note is that most of the oil is in the south and north....there is not much in the Sunni-controlled areas.

After the US invasion of Iraq, the primary groups to be dealt with were
1) The Shia militias in the south up through Baghdad led primarily by Al Sadr.
2) The Iraqi Sunni tribes in West and Central Iraq (including Baghdad). Many of the former Baathist and Iraqi military leaders (including Saddam) were part of this group.
3) Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) led by Zarquai....made up primarily of foreign Jihadists that entered the country after the US invasion.
4) Kurdish rebels came to fore front later and have been fighting the Turks along the Turkish and Iraqi border.

From 2003 through the middle of 2007, we battled with (1), (2), and (3). We had several fire fights with Al Sadr's militia; contrary to popular belief, most of the US troop deaths were at the hands of the Sunnis in the west who planted the majority of the roadside bombs....some very sophisticated, probably by former Iraqi military. That wasn't Al Qaeda....they were responsible for the massive suicide attacks against civilians and Shia religious sites. This, in turn, stoked waves of sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shia which, in turn, has led to a far more segregated Iraq. In the meantime, Al Qaeda was terrorizing many of the Iraqi Sunnis...trying to gain their support against the Americans.

In 2007, Petraeus sat down with several of the Sunni Tribal leaders (many of which were probably responsible for a large number of US troop deaths) and negotiated with them with the goal of joining forces against AQI.....and it worked!!! AQI has been forced out of Al Anbar and have been primarily hiding out in the Mosul area (Northern Iraq). They are still a problem, but 2007 was a bad year for them....thanks to the US and Sunni Iraqis (many of Saddam's former people) working together. That's what I call successful negotiation with "terrorists"....sometimes it's a no brainer. There may be some Sunnis that are still anti-US, but nothing like Falluja in 2004.

Al Sadr and his militia are still causing problems with sporadic fighting in places like Baghdad and Basrah. He wants US forces out. He probably would like Iraq to become a Shia theocracy. We are hoping that Maliki's forces can effectively deal with them. The Kurdish rebels and the Turks are still a concern as they continue to fire at each other. We are hoping to keep Turkey from taking things too far...this is more of a geo-political effort on our part.

That's it in a nutshell.

noneof yourbusiness · #16 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 02:25 PM

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That's it in a nutshell

A large American fatty fatty two by four nutshell from Sams Club....5 pound party bag.

noneof yourbusiness · #17 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by StormanNorman

OK Stryker, I'll give it a go:

Iraq is made up of predominantly three groups:
1) Arab Sunnis who occupy Western/Middle Iraq; main cities include Ramadi, Falluja, and the Al Anbar province.
2) Arab Shia who occupy the south and Southeastern Iraq; main cities include Basrah (very important oil center), Al Kut, Al Amarah, Karbala, etc.
3) The Kurds who occupy northern Iraq (along with Southeastern Turkey); main cities include Kirkuk (another very important oil center) and other towns.

Of course, there was intermixing along the boundaries of these regions in places like Baghdad (obviously, a very important city), Mosul, and, initially, Kirkuk....although I think the Sunni Arabs have been more or less forced out of Kirkuk. The key thing to note is that most of the oil is in the south and north....there is not much in the Sunni-controlled areas.

After the US invasion of Iraq, the primary groups to be dealt with were
1) The Shia militias in the south up through Baghdad led primarily by Al Sadr.
2) The Iraqi Sunni tribes in West and Central Iraq (including Baghdad). Many of the former Baathist and Iraqi military leaders (including Saddam) were part of this group.
3) Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) led by Zarquai....made up primarily of foreign Jihadists that entered the country after the US invasion.
4) Kurdish rebels came to fore front later and have been fighting the Turks along the Turkish and Iraqi border.

From 2003 through the middle of 2007, we battled with (1), (2), and (3). We had several fire fights with Al Sadr's militia; contrary to popular belief, most of the US troop deaths were at the hands of the Sunnis in the west who planted the majority of the roadside bombs....some very sophisticated, probably by former Iraqi military. That wasn't Al Qaeda....they were responsible for the massive suicide attacks against civilians and Shia religious sites. This, in turn, stoked waves of sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shia which, in turn, has led to a far more segregated Iraq. In the meantime, Al Qaeda was terrorizing many of the Iraqi Sunnis...trying to gain their support against the Americans.

In 2007, Petraeus sat down with several of the Sunni Tribal leaders (many of which were probably responsible for a large number of US troop deaths) and negotiated with them with the goal of joining forces against AQI.....and it worked!!! AQI has been forced out of Al Anbar and have been primarily hiding out in the Mosul area (Northern Iraq). They are still a problem, but 2007 was a bad year for them....thanks to the US and Sunni Iraqis (many of Saddam's former people) working together. That's what I call successful negotiation with "terrorists"....sometimes it's a no brainer. There may be some Sunnis that are still anti-US, but nothing like Falluja in 2004.

Al Sadr and his militia are still causing problems with sporadic fighting in places like Baghdad and Basrah. He wants US forces out. He probably would like Iraq to become a Shia theocracy. We are hoping that Maliki's forces can effectively deal with them. The Kurdish rebels and the Turks are still a concern as they continue to fire at each other. We are hoping to keep Turkey from taking things too far...this is more of a geo-political effort on our part.

That's it in a nutshell.

Shia when they are on America side..But they are Shiites. Like TWA. Are you sure they are not the sucide bombers? Dont you dare call me John MCcain..

StormanNorman · #18 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Shia when they are on America side..But they are Shiites. Like TWA. Are you sure they are not the sucide bombers? Dont you dare call me John MCcain..

Possibly...but it does not seem to be their (the Shia or Shiites) mode of operations...at least, right now.

wow · #19 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Back Atcha

I'm guessing your the guy who gets stung by a bee, finds the nearest hive and throws an M-80 into it, then wakes up in the hospital with 80 stings wondering what the hell happened.

The more perceived innocents you kill, the more recruits they get... by now this should be a no brainer.

This is only true when the masses are told lies, but in the end, the truth comes out and Americans are victorious in Iraq.

sotmfs · #20 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormanNorman

OK Stryker, I'll give it a go:

Iraq is made up of predominantly three groups:
1) Arab Sunnis who occupy Western/Middle Iraq; main cities include Ramadi, Falluja, and the Al Anbar province.
2) Arab Shia who occupy the south and Southeastern Iraq; main cities include Basrah (very important oil center), Al Kut, Al Amarah, Karbala, etc.
3) The Kurds who occupy northern Iraq (along with Southeastern Turkey); main cities include Kirkuk (another very important oil center) and other towns.

Of course, there was intermixing along the boundaries of these regions in places like Baghdad (obviously, a very important city), Mosul, and, initially, Kirkuk....although I think the Sunni Arabs have been more or less forced out of Kirkuk. The key thing to note is that most of the oil is in the south and north....there is not much in the Sunni-controlled areas.

After the US invasion of Iraq, the primary groups to be dealt with were
1) The Shia militias in the south up through Baghdad led primarily by Al Sadr.
2) The Iraqi Sunni tribes in West and Central Iraq (including Baghdad). Many of the former Baathist and Iraqi military leaders (including Saddam) were part of this group.
3) Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) led by Zarquai....made up primarily of foreign Jihadists that entered the country after the US invasion.
4) Kurdish rebels came to fore front later and have been fighting the Turks along the Turkish and Iraqi border.

From 2003 through the middle of 2007, we battled with (1), (2), and (3). We had several fire fights with Al Sadr's militia; contrary to popular belief, most of the US troop deaths were at the hands of the Sunnis in the west who planted the majority of the roadside bombs....some very sophisticated, probably by former Iraqi military. That wasn't Al Qaeda....they were responsible for the massive suicide attacks against civilians and Shia religious sites. This, in turn, stoked waves of sectarian violence between the Sunnis and the Shia which, in turn, has led to a far more segregated Iraq. In the meantime, Al Qaeda was terrorizing many of the Iraqi Sunnis...trying to gain their support against the Americans.

In 2007, Petraeus sat down with several of the Sunni Tribal leaders (many of which were probably responsible for a large number of US troop deaths) and negotiated with them with the goal of joining forces against AQI.....and it worked!!! AQI has been forced out of Al Anbar and have been primarily hiding out in the Mosul area (Northern Iraq). They are still a problem, but 2007 was a bad year for them....thanks to the US and Sunni Iraqis (many of Saddam's former people) working together. That's what I call successful negotiation with "terrorists"....sometimes it's a no brainer. There may be some Sunnis that are still anti-US, but nothing like Falluja in 2004.

Al Sadr and his militia are still causing problems with sporadic fighting in places like Baghdad and Basrah. He wants US forces out. He probably would like Iraq to become a Shia theocracy. We are hoping that Maliki's forces can effectively deal with them. The Kurdish rebels and the Turks are still a concern as they continue to fire at each other. We are hoping to keep Turkey from taking things too far...this is more of a geo-political effort on our part.

That's it in a nutshell.

We can always count on you to rise to the occassion!Good post.
You are one of the sane people here.