Ever seen someone die? To stare through their eyes, sense their breath, their tension. Hear their grinding teeth. You can feel their desperation, their fear, their shock Then watch’em silently slip away. You believe you know what to expect for your own future. Scary. Now it’s just you, the other witness has gone. Your word against theirs. You find yourself back in reality. "Oh, fuck, hope no one saw me!" You seem to have awaken not from a nightmare, but unto one.

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"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. " Demosthenes

I am not sure what your asking but I have been with people that have died in my presence and and they were at peace with the experience from all outward appearances.

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An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Ditto!!!!!

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Suitcase in my hand,
Jack is in his corset and Jane is in her vest,
And me, I'm in a Rock & Roll band.

Thank God. Most are peaceful. Most experiences American citizens have with death involve the elderly and terminally ill family members and friends who have prepared themselves. Those who live in peace usually die in peace. I'm referring to combat experiences of our Iraqi and Afghan veterans and my attempt to convey some insight on the impact of killing someone. Help others get some understanding of our returning veterans that can explain their mental state. Adrenaline addiction (Cocaine abuse, car racing, brawling, murder) and shame (Alcohol abuse, depression, isolation, suicide). Research "Psychology of Killing". There are several sites than can elaborate further.

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"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. " Demosthenes

Ok thanks for the calification here but since you are concerned about our vets, then you must know that some soldiers will always have problems dealing with acts of war. But look at the vets of both world wars and Korea which mostly came home dealt with these acts and went on to be good responsible citizens.

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An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

The percentage of PTSD in the Iraq war is much higher than ever before. The suicide rate is also up for these veterans. Please don't discount their reactions as normal combat "problems" just because those who fought 50-60 years ago didn't have the professionals mental health knowledge we do today.

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“One of the things that I learned in the school yard was: the folks that are talking tough all the time, they’re not always that tough. If you’re really tough, you’re not always looking to try to start a fight. If you’re really tough, sometimes you just walk away. If you’re really tough, you just save it for when you really need it,� Obama said.

A few years back our psyche beds contained a mix of disgruntled soldiers who wouldn't or couldn't take army life, were homesick, or had problems with their significant others and Vietnam and occasionally, Korean veterans. We are closed for admission to all but active duty soldiers and the vast majority are OIF returnees wanting to end their life or someone elses. Lots of drug/alcohol abuse too. My job is to listen to their story and help best I can. I think this forum can and does help and all you guys are great.

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"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke

"Nothing is easier than self-deceit. For what each man wishes, that he also believes to be true. " Demosthenes

It seems strange, but the more "problems" psychiatrists "find" the worse the problem gets. Fifty years ago there was no PTSD or ADHD and very few people (adults or kids) went on killing sprees. Maybe they should stop treating these "problems" with drugs. But then "mental health professional" were not called in, to perscribe some new wonder drug, every time a child broke an arm, or a fellow worker was injured in an accident.

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Yes our warriors deserve our respect and help. Their jobs are dangerous and they see friends die beside them and have to wonder why not them.

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An informed voter scares the Goverment lackeys.

An American first and always a Conservative.

Wow, you make us sound like a group of psychos. While a lot of guys have PTSD, there are varying degrees of severity. What youre referring to is 1 percent, if not less. The rest of us do just fine without cocaine or homocide to fuel our adrenaline needs.

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Norman Thomas