For once I was in agreement with your posts up to a certain point I must add.

To begin you stated the truths about the secrecy required concerning foreign policies be them ally or enemy. You became a HYPOCRITE when you left factual evidence and began bolstering things such as, Speculation, Conspiracy, Half Truths and potential Alterior Motivation......

How can you begin so well yet end so poorly?

FACT is, when you left listing facts, you then treaded onto the path of speculation and half truths that were still depicted as if fact was still precedent..

You failed to mention that the UN, germany, France, Russia (soviet's), Australia, Spain, UK were also contributing data to the UN council in which the conclusion was that there were a MASS (over 600) unaccounted for WMD's that Iraq had not proved being destroyed not used in combat!

The last time we butted heads that point was mentioned and you ignored it. My numbers may be wrong but in an approximate figure let me say Iraq claim 1800 WMD's to begin and claim 1200 used in combat (combat against it's own people) that were used and then another 600+ the UN witnessed them being destroyed. however the UN determined still yet a large number (approximately 400-600 were still unaccounted for and sought the proof and that is where Iraq violated many resolutions refusal of allowing inspectors.

U.S. War Heroes of the Iraq War

U.S. War Heroes of the Iraq War
War Resisters from within the Military
Update on Struggle for U.S. military resisters in Canada



Statements Supporting resistance within the U.S. Military:

Refuse to Kill!
Iraq Pledge of Resistance




Every War has its heroes, those who take risks to protect the values we cherish; this war is no different.
We honor those soldiers who risked loss of liberty, economic deprivation, and social ostracism. Each of these men and women of the military have at some point refused orders in this immoral, illegal, unjustified war the United States is currently waging in Iraq, or the occupation in Afghanistan. They obeyed their conscience over illegal orders.
Urgent: Support Lt. Watada, First U.S. Officer to resist the illegal Iraq War. More...
Contents:
List of known War Resisters from the ranks of the U.S. military.
Links for finding info on conscientious objection, GI Rights
Courage to Resist Online support for War Resisters.
Statements of solidarity with military resisters. Encouraging refusal to carry out unlawful, immoral orders:
Brothers and Sisters in the Military: "Refuse to Fight! Refuse to Kill!"
Iraq Pledge of Resistance: We pledge to support military resisters
Read this January 2006 update about Jimmy Massey.
U.S. Marines killed innocent civilians in Iraq, says Congressman.

History of GI resistance, major documentary released. See Sir, No Sir!
Read the Nuremberg Principles, and the standards of international law.
Soldiers go to Canada. Again More...
Key Bush advisor, Daniel Pipes, advocated U.S. military aid to Saddam Hussein. Pipes also advocated for the occupation of Iraq. You trust his judgment?
Military Recruiters are getting hit hard. It is not easy to sell a lie. See more.
Meditation on Resistance, from the Viet Nam War
News on the Iraq War
A whole platoon, 17 soldiers, refuse orders in Iraq. Cite safety concerns. see more (includes March 2005 update!)
Hundreds have applied for Conscientious Objector status
Hundreds of Reserve Soldiers say NO. See the New York Times article here. Also see recent U.S.A. Today Article- "Army Not Punishing Reservists" Here
Mother Jones article on "Breaking Ranks" - soldiers who speak and act against this war
A political cartoon that says it all...Don't let them make you cannon fodder for endless war!
A Question of Sanity. What does sanity mean in our present age? And the pleasures of a "well-adjusted" military man.
From the novel johnny got his gun, a warning to those who plan war.

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Soldiers going awol have trebled

by Severin Carrell, The Independent, 19 March 2006

The number of soldiers absconding from the British Army has trebled since the invasion of Iraq, raising fears that the military is facing a crisis in morale.

The Independent on Sunday can reveal that last year more than 380 soldiers went absent without leave and have since failed to return to duty - marking a dramatic increase since the invasion of Iraq three years ago.

Military lawyers and campaigners said that these figures suggested significant levels of disaffection in the ranks over the legality of the occupation, and growing discontent about the coalition's failure to defeat the Iraqi insurgency.

An RAF doctor was last week taken to a court martial for refusing to serve in Iraq, claiming the occupation is illegal, and a former SAS trooper, Ben Griffin, revealed he had quit the army in protest at the war.

Mr Griffin was among the 20,000 anti-war protesters, including a number of families of serving soldiers, who marched in London yesterday to mark the third anniversary of the war in Iraq.

Opposition MPs were alarmed by the new figures. Bob Russell, the Liberal Democrat MP for the garrison town of Colchester in Essex, is to question ministers about the numbers in the Commons this week.

Mr Russell, a Defence spokesman, said he believed morale in the army was generally high, but added: "That's an increase worthy of detailed investigation as to whether there's an underlying reason for it."

Ministers are planning to tackle the "refusenik" problem by introducing a new definition of desertion in the Armed Forces Bill now going through Parliament. Soldiers could now face life imprisonment if they refuse to take part in the occupation of a foreign country - a move thought to be directly linked to concerns over Iraq.

Figures released by the MoD show that over the past five years the number of soldiers who have gone Awol and failed to rejoin their units has steadily increased, rising from 86 in 2001 to 118 in 2002 and then 135 in 2003, when the Iraq war began.

But over the past two years - as the Iraqi opposition to the occupation has intensified and coalition casualties increased - the numbers leapt to 230 in 2004 and then to 383. Defence officials admit these figures are troubling, because the number of soldiers who go Awol for a short period, but who then return to active duty or get arrested, has remained fairly level at about 2,600 cases a year.

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The bequeathing of the war on terror by mainstream media does or does not give merit to your prior statement I quoted?
Futhermore, How significant is the media on bolstering popular opinion?

FYI- the second question rewards complicite data supporting erroneous results.


---I'll give you a clue on how to reply: Do not be specific if you misunderstand the query but it would be wise to admit that media has an influencial effect of either pro and/or con results with any and every topic if that media has an agenda to garvitate.

A federal warrant, which remains valid for forty years, "is issued the moment a soldier crosses the line between absent without leave and desertion. A soldier who does not show up for duty is classified as AWOL for 30 days. After that, he or she becomes an official deserter. During a time of war, the 30-day grace period disappears."—Army Lt. Col. Susan Danielsen at Fort Bragg, NC, November 2003.

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Yer Best Post ever, Tileman.

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Desertion huge problem for US in Iraq war - 23 May 2005 - NZ Herald: World / International News

Monday May 23, 2005
By Andrew Buncombe
Sergeant Kevin Benderman cannot shake the images from his head.

There are bombed villages and desperate people. There are dogs eating corpses thrown into a mass grave. And most unremitting of all is the image of a young Iraqi girl, no more than eight or nine, her entire body except for one of her arms severely burned and blistered.Last January these memories became too much for this veteran of the war in Iraq. Informed that his unit was about to return, he told his commanders he wanted out and applied to be considered a conscientious objector. The Army refused and instead charged him with desertion. His case - which carries a penalty of up to seven years' imprisonment - has now started before a military judge at Fort Stewart in Georgia.

"If I have to go to prison because I don't want to kill anybody, so be it," said Sergeant Benderman.

The case of Benderman and that of others like him has focused attention on the thousands of US troops who have gone Awol (Absent Without Leave) since the start of President Bush's war on terror. The most recent Pentagon figures suggest that 5133 troops remain missing from duty. Of these, 2376 are sought by the Army, 1410 by the Navy, 1297 by the Marines and 50 by the Air Force. Some have been missing for decades.

But campaigners say the true figure of those who have gone Awol could be much, much higher. Staff who run a volunteer hotline to help desperate soldiers and new recruits looking to get out or else having discovered at basic training that military life is not for them, say the number of calls has increased by 50 per cent since 9/11. Last year alone, the GI Rights Hotline received more than 30,000 calls. At the moment the hotline is receiving up to 3000 calls a month and the volunteers say that by the time a soldier or new recruit dials the help line he or she has almost always decided to get out by one means or another.

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