A.Crowley, Pervez Musharraf was the ONLY person in Pakistan that supported the US invasion of Iraq and begrudgingly convinced his government to also say they supported it at a time when he (Pervez Musharraf) was very close to being ousted from office!

Pervez Musharraf was hanging on by a thread from being murdered, civil war, removed by his own party, etc and still had the GUTS to support the US invasion. His own people HATED him for his support of the US and had we gone into Pakistan he absolutely would've been over thrown and we would have had war against Pakistan also!


Edited to add this-------- Hussein Obama, KNEW of Pervez Musharraf's problems in his own country that is the *EXACT REASON* Hussein Obama said in a public interview "He would think about invading Pakistan to find Bin Laden". Hussein Obama KNEW that statement would ENRAGE his own country against him and it WORKED....

You're all a bunch of FoxNews Dumbshits, and haven't a clue.

If Pakistan harbored Al Qeada operatives and/or Usama, Dubya was obliged to go there due to his own promises.

Musharraf is a pig, Mr. Amerika.

Ah...I think I just discovered what you may have been referencing in the other thread...

There's a pair to draw to.

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...find page page 21-23 of Ricks' book, I am not going to type it all here. This is only a start though. There is much more.

SSSHHHH, we already know you know nothing about anything...

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This is absolute rubbish which is why I scorn criminal propaganda apologists. The horrible looming "weapons of mass destruction" (a Pentagon term) were nerve agents and maybe some Scud missiles. The persons who wrote the rubbish excuse you proffered knew when they wrote it that those weapons had a longevity period for their effectiveness that had expired. You're jumbling your phony claims here. First you refer to stockpiles from the 70's and 80's (a time when Rumsfeld sat next to Saddam for a photo) but you forget the Colin Powell evidence was of new WMD's made from mobile facilities as well as nuclear weapons development etc. So try to keep your lies coordinated.

But let's not let those who failed their original claims lead the argument. Fact is, Israel sent a document to the US in 2002 saying Saddam had no WMD's, his army was broken and ineffective, and that Iraq posed no threat. ALL arguments must go through this route.

I find our media criminally culpable for ignoring this document and its meaning in regard to the WMD's claim that caused the war. Our media is in a state of fatal Constitutional contempt because of this. It has relinquished its obligation to question the government for the people. They can't spin it so they send it to the memory hole.

What you are doing is trying to make valid false excuses that were used by Bush to conflate Iraq with 9-11 for a neo-con PNAC invasion of Iraq.

Please don't ask us to be dumb.

But let's not let those who failed their original claims lead the argument. Fact is, Israel sent a document to the US in 2002 saying Saddam had no WMD's, his army was broken and ineffective, and that Iraq posed no threat. ALL arguments must go through this route.

Saddam's WMD Moved to Syria, An Israeli Says

The Israeli officer, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, asserted that Saddam spirited his chemical weapons out of the country on the eve of the war. "He transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria," General Yaalon told The New York Sun over dinner in New York on Tuesday night. "No one went to Syria to find it."

Saddam's WMD Moved to Syria, An Israeli Says - December 15, 2005 - The New York Sun

Jet. post your Source.

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The Selling of the Iraq War: The First Casualty- UN Security Council - Global Policy Forum

Foreign policy is always difficult in a democracy. Democracy requires openness. Yet foreign policy requires a level of secrecy that frees it from oversight and exposes it to abuse. As a result, Republicans and Democrats have long held that the intelligence agencies--the most clandestine of foreign policy institutions--should be insulated from political interference in much the same way as the higher reaches of the judiciary. As the Tower Commission, established to investigate the Iran-Contra scandal, warned in November 1987, "The democratic processes ... are subverted when intelligence is manipulated to affect decisions by elected officials and the public."

If anything, this principle has grown even more important since September 11, 2001. The Iraq war presented the United States with a new defense paradigm: preemptive war, waged in response to a prediction of a forthcoming attack against the United States or its allies. This kind of security policy requires the public to base its support or opposition on expert intelligence to which it has no direct access. It is up to the president and his administration--with a deep interest in a given policy outcome--nonetheless to portray the intelligence community's findings honestly. If an administration represents the intelligence unfairly, it effectively forecloses an informed choice about the most important question a nation faces: whether or not to go to war. That is exactly what the Bush administration did when it sought to convince the public and Congress that the United States should go to war with Iraq.

From late August 2002 to mid-March of this year, the Bush administration made its case for war by focusing on the threat posed to the United States by Saddam Hussein's nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and by his purported links to the Al Qaeda terrorist network. Officials conjured up images of Iraqi mushroom clouds over U.S. cities and of Saddam transferring to Osama bin Laden chemical and biological weapons that could be used to create new and more lethal September elevenths. In Nashville on August 26, 2002, Vice President Dick Cheney warned of a Saddam "armed with an arsenal of these weapons of terror" who could "directly threaten America's friends throughout the region and subject the United States or any other nation to nuclear blackmail." In Washington on September 26, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claimed he had "bulletproof" evidence of ties between Saddam and Al Qaeda. And, in Cincinnati on October 7, President George W. Bush warned, "The Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons." Citing Saddam's association with Al Qaeda, the president added that this "alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints."

Yet there was no consensus within the American intelligence community that Saddam represented such a grave and imminent threat. Rather, interviews with current and former intelligence officials and other experts reveal that the Bush administration culled from U.S. intelligence those assessments that supported its position and omitted those that did not.

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