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"Paul", when you are/were there, and loose/lost dear friends & comrades, it does really become very personal. I know that, I was there & did that (different war/different time/same thing).

It is personal most definately: but it is NOT exclussively personal: the Nation as a whole has a responsibility to care & become involved; and a responsibility to speak out to the matters at hand.

Unfortunately sometimes "speaking out" is not as reverent as it should be: I was hit in the face with a snowball when in uniform escorting a fallen friend home I stepped off the plane in 1973, that was not very reverent. I was pretty angry, eventually I realized that the thrower was out of bounds & wrong, but in the end the notion & belief that the war was not good for the Nation was the privilage of every American. ...(paul)

From one Paul to another ...well said. And fine comeback to none

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I will not blame you for Obama's incompetent lies.

FactCheck.org: Stuck in Iraq?

Sen. Barack Obama took a very similar position as Hillary, saying some U.S. troops would remain for an indefinite period for "counterterrorism activities," which we presume means combat troops.obama

Russert: Will you pledge that by January 2013, the end of your first term more than five years from now, there will be no U.S. troops in Iraq?
Obama: I think it's hard to project four years from now, and I think it would be irresponsible. We don't know what contingency will be out there. What I can promise is that if there are still troops in Iraq when I take office [and] if there's no timetable [for withdrawal], then I will drastically reduce our presence there to the mission of protecting our embassy, protecting our civilians and making sure that we're carrying out counterterrorism activities there.

That sorta blows your whole premise of Dems surrendering, eh dumbshit?

"The troops are coming home in phases. Nevertheless, they are still there because Democrats have made it clear, if they win the White House, Iraq will be handed to the Al Qaida."
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No, Obama said he would bring the troops home no earlier than 2013."



Go fuck yerself, bitchTroll.

Well "crowley", it does not really matter much where Al Quaida is located: we will have to go after them wherever they are. Killing them in Iraq could not be any harder then it is now, we are not getting to them in Pakistan: in away it might be easier in Iraq.

I still believe we need a very tallented, very mean, very well trained & well equiped, force of special ruthless warriors, that can & will deploy anywhere - anytime to destroy & devistate anyone that intends the nation harm. If some foreign government is giving safe harbor to those that would harm us, then we could step on them too in the process: and perhaps governments would do a better job at managing their own house.

I agree with you. I also think that we have purposefully chosen to be behind the current world realities when it comes to also training for Peace keeping forces that work in conjunction with the rapid response forces. Europe, because of their long standing interactions with these issues have incorporated that into their military infrastructures.
Where ever our military forces have been in a community for a longer period of time than a year deployment...That is the command structure locally has stayed instead of being changed after that one year, they have found ways to interact & work through problems in the local community. Regretfully this has been a backwards way of having to learn that there needs to be a peace keeping contingent of the military. Before Iraq the U.S. military actually had disdain for this aspect that Europe has been incorporating fro a while Quietly based on the real world issues on the ground they are begrudgingly incorporating these lessons.

This is a far more underestimated & an important aspect of the 'complete' tool set we need to deal with these insurgent issues.

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Thanks for pointing out Obama's incompetent lies.

A quote from Obama's own website:

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda.

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Iraq

Obama's lack of experience and comprehension are obvious.
Obama is clueless about foreign policy.

You forget about the time he personally brought peace to that magical floating island nation where the unicorns and leprechauns were fighting a bitter civil war against one another.