We created the terrorists.

Clinton? He did not work unilaterally, check your facts. Reagan or Bush I did not work unilaterally either, but as per your line of reasoning we could blame a hell of a lot of death on them too.

GW Bush is the only 'go it alone' man. Completely different.

Who is we?
As I recall, Osama uses Liberals/Democrats in the US, Europe and the Quran to create terrorists.
Do you have some recruiting fliers or e mails or posters proving this "we" created terrorists?
Does this mean the Muslim terrorists created American terrorists in Iraq?
I'm confused!

-Clinton did invade Kosovo unilaterally and illegally, he did NOT get approval from the American people (Congress).
-Bush got approval from Congress, therefore, he invaded Iraq with approval from the American people. That makes it perfectly legal.
-When the UN or NATO starts paying the bills for the American people, then they can call the shots for the American people, until then, they are nothing more than useless puppets.

Then you will stay confused. Your premise of illiterate, wayward, poor people following around Bin Laden this way is idiotic. In fact, if you really think about it, Muslim extremists are far more politically and religiously in line with ultra Conservatives. You really should have attended your political science classes in school...

I dont find it interesting that left leaning types equivocate, rationalize, and even outright alter history to suit their needs.

1. We are still in Germany! We were there despite the immediate setting up of democracy in the west. We were there due to the communist threat in the east. We are still there out of pure, unadulterated promise to NATO that we are handy to protect the peace.

2. Who said troops in the North? Btw, you did notice we were in the north at one point, we are in the south, why? Because we still do not recognize the north at all! As far as we are concerned we are still fighting in Korea, we are there waiting them out....LOL

3. We are in Afganistan AND Iraq AND we support and supply Saudi Arabia AND we support and supply Israel AND we built and maintain democracies in Phillipines, Japan, and Europe.

We would even be in other countries if we had the means to do so. Get used to our presence in the middle east. We will be there for decades to come.

This was a NATO action, I posted this a while back...

The American people did not approve 'anything,' there was no say in this. He did not get approval from UN to do this. He got 'approval' from congress top take 'necessary actions'...you should really do some reading, this bill did not say "invade and occupy Iraq."

NATO and the UN are organizations we were integral in starting, have supported (until GWB), and relied upon numerous times to make sure the sovereignty of a country is not violated when action is taken. We agreed to the treaties and the voting make-up of these organizations.

You are still a 28%er...but thanks for your opinion anyhow...

You reflect exactly what you have just said...please read closely.

Well, you just did everything to explain what I have said. We (the US) are in West Germany as per a NATO treaty. What treaty says we need to be in Iraq?

Well, you just did everything to explain what I have said (again). We (the US) are in South Korea (on the DMZ) as per a SEATO treaty. What treaty says we need to be in Iraq?

You have just said nothing...the treaties I have mentioned make your point superfluous about Iraq.

Guess you are not getting this are you? We have been in the ME for a long time but to the approval of certain countries (Saudi Arabia). Did Saddam Hussein and the leaders in Iran agree to us being in their countries in the past?

Try to stay on the page, we are talking about Iraq.

Well here we go again: Bush proclaims the "surge" is working, and everything is going well in Iraq: as to the effacacy of the "surge, Mission Accomplished"!

Its just that the entire country has again errupted into intense civil-war violence: the dirty little clerical terrorist al-Sadir has told his army "not to lay down their arms, until the occupiers have left Iraq". Some place, they have clerics with armies instead of congregations; and here we sit in the middle being shot at and hated by all sides.

Spinn it however, but we need to be out of there, and as quick as we can reasonably do so: or lets send 100,000 more troops, and take all the oil for ourselves: at least that would make some sense. ...pjwky

What happens to our security if cut and run from Iraq? The Viet Cong didn't have the ability to strike us in this country but radical Islamics do.

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