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03-28-2008, 10:03 AM
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EF say's nothing, again.
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03-28-2008, 10:05 AM
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"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. "
Is this for Carson and Razzpukin?
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03-28-2008, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Eternal Footman
Nobody wants that happening around them and theirs. Just like I'm sure they would rather have had Uday and Qusay's rape rooms in someone else's area. That's not to say anybody wants any of the previous to begin with.
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Iraq is a complete failure on all counts.
We didn't go there to save the Iraqi's from Uday or anyone else.
It never was a humanitarian effort, and still isn't.
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03-28-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Heckler
Iraq is a complete failure on all counts.
We didn't go there to save the Iraqi's from Uday or anyone else.
It never was a humanitarian effort, and still isn't.
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That's really beyond what I was addressing. I'd never make the comment of, 'better there than here', but everyone thinks along those lines. I don't understand someone saying, 'what do you think the Iraqi's would say'. It seems to be based on the presumption that the violence is desired in the first place.
Nobody wants violence effecting them or their family and few want violence at all. That's my point.
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03-28-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Eternal Footman
That's really beyond what I was addressing. I'd never make the comment of, 'better there than here', but everyone thinks along those lines. I don't understand someone saying, 'what do you think the Iraqi's would say'. It seems to be based on the presumption that the violence is desired in the first place.
Nobody wants violence effecting them or their family and few want violence at all. That's my point.
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Well, what I was getting at, EF, is this....I've heard several people say that...."better there than here." But, is that really the way we should look at it? The way I see it...we took our quarrel with Al Qaeda to their backyard...a quarrel they had nothing to do with them. And they are the ones who are paying for it....dearly, I might add. I'm not so sure that I would be boasting "better there than here."
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03-28-2008, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by StormanNorman
Well, what I was getting at, EF, is this....I've heard several people say that...."better there than here." But, is that really the way we should look at it? The way I see it...we took our quarrel with Al Qaeda to their backyard...a quarrel they had nothing to do with them. And they are the ones who are paying for it....dearly, I might add. I'm not so sure that I would be boasting "better there than here."
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I think that is the only sentiment war supporters have left. It has been such a collosal failure, they are grasping at straws to make it appear to have been worthwhile.
It certainly is an ignoble expression of pure self interest.
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03-28-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
What are you smoking? Try to read some articles and real news for once...
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-That's the problem, I do read the news reports and they tell me these reporters are afraid to criticize the Al Qaida and Iran. Reporters are afraid to use the word "Terrorists".
-Iraq is a country of 25 million people and these reporters expect me to think Iraq is in chaos when 50 people are blown up? What a joke!
-I'm supposed to think US troops are losing the war when 4 soldiers are killed and there are 150,000 soldiers over there? What a joke!
-The reporting from Iraq is a joke at best and at it's worst, it's designed to attack American morale.
-Pay attention to who are writing these AP reports, they are Muslims! lol
In fact, the US media repeats many of the Al Jareeza news reports.
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03-28-2008, 03:00 PM
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The victory in Iraq may be bigger than the victory in WWII, considering 63 countries have been attacked by the Al Qaida and their spin-offs.
The news media in the US has not changed much since WWII, when they were calling General George Patton a "Nazi" and declared the Mi Lei fight an unfair massacre.
I'm not concerned how Americans interpret these news reports.
In the end, the truth always comes out and those that have been deceitful lose all credibility. 95% of the people in the world want to live in peace, Liberals/terrorists will NEVER win!
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03-28-2008, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by StormanNorman
Well, what I was getting at, EF, is this....I've heard several people say that...."better there than here." But, is that really the way we should look at it? The way I see it...we took our quarrel with Al Qaeda to their backyard...a quarrel they had nothing to do with them. And they are the ones who are paying for it....dearly, I might add. I'm not so sure that I would be boasting "better there than here."
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Other than, the fact the Al Qaida ran to Iraq after being defeated in Afghanistan. LOL
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03-28-2008, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Eternal Footman
That's really beyond what I was addressing. I'd never make the comment of, 'better there than here', but everyone thinks along those lines. I don't understand someone saying, 'what do you think the Iraqi's would say'. It seems to be based on the presumption that the violence is desired in the first place.
Nobody wants violence effecting them or their family and few want violence at all. That's my point.
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Okay, I agree with your point, I apologize for misreading.....
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