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04-12-2008, 09:29 AM
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It's good to know you speak more highly of Bin Laden than your own President who's kept this nation safe for almost 8 years. You should hang your head in shame.
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04-12-2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Super Patriot
It's good to know you speak more highly of Bin Laden than your own President whose kep this nation safe for almost 8 years. You should hang your head in shame.
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I did not say I thought more highly of him. I said when Bin Laden made his plan to entangle the U.S. in a long protracted war that would bleed us financially and weaken our military, I bet he underestimated the stupidity of the Bush administration and never imagined he could entangle us in Iraq for 5 years and create a war that would not only make us less safe, but has bleed us economically and over extend our military. Bin laden is our enemy and a mass murderer. I am sick that he was so successful in his objective.We opened doors for him in Iraq.
Why should I hang my head in shame? I am not responsible for this quagmire, although I do spend a great deal of money funding it.
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04-12-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
I did not say I thought more highly of him. I said when Bin Laden made his plan to entangle the U.S. in a long protracted war that would bleed us financially and weaken our military, I bet he underestimated the stupidity of the Bush administration and never imagined he could entangle us in Iraq for 5 years and create a war that would not only make us less safe, but has bleed us economically and over extend our military. Bin laden is our enemy and a mass murderer. I am sick that he was so successful in his objective.We opened doors for him in Iraq.
Why should I hang my head in shame? I am not responsible for this quagmire, although I do spend a great deal of money funding it.
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Iraq has already paid the US several billion dollars and much more is coming.
Iraq has a $20 Billion surplus for 2007 alone.
You are using the lives of innocent Americans for political gain and tell the Al Qaida they have supporters in America.
You should have to pay a special tax to comfort the families that lost a loved one fighting in Iraq.
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04-12-2008, 12:48 PM
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Republicants should pay for this war, after they serve two tours in Iraq.
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04-12-2008, 12:49 PM
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washingtonpost.com
US should repay Iraq for Halliburton work: audit
By John Poirier
Reuters
Saturday, November 5, 2005; 3:38 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States should reimburse Iraq for $208 million in apparent overcharges paid to a Halliburton Co. subsidiary, an U.N. watchdog agency said on Saturday.
The International Advisory and Monitoring Board for the Development of Iraq conducted a special audit on Halliburton's Kellogg, Brown and Root unit for the procurement and distribution of fuel products and the restoration of Iraq's oil infrastructure.
The monitoring board cited charges of $208 million, costs that earlier had been questioned by U.S. military auditors.
In a statement made public on its Web site on Saturday, the board said it "recommends that amounts disbursed to contractors that cannot be supported as fair be reimbursed expeditiously."
Halliburton's spokeswoman, Cathy Mann, said the U.S. agency's questioned the quality of the supporting documents for the costs -- not the costs themselves.
"Therefore, it would be completely wrong to say or imply that any of these costs that were incurred at the client's direction for its benefit are 'overcharges,"' Mann said.
The monitoring board can make recommendations but not decisions on whether reimbursements are made.
Iraq's oil account, called the Development Fund for Iraq, was set up by the U.N. Security Council, along with the monitoring board, to watch over the stewardship of Iraq's natural resources during the U.S. civil administration of Iraq.
The monitoring board's life was extended after an appointed transitional Iraqi government took over on June 29, 2004.
In May, the board noted "with regret" that Pentagon auditors had tried to hide from it more than $200 million in apparent overcharges in contracts paid for with Iraqi oil money and awarded on a noncompetitive basis to Halliburton, a company once led by Vice President Dick Cheney.
U.S. military auditors had turned over heavily edited audits to the board, saying the deletions were made to protect trade secrets. An unedited version of the audit later surfaced, showing the deletions sought to conceal questionable billings.
In its recent statement, the monitoring board also said "the process to substantiate these expenditures is still ongoing."
The board said a total of 24 "sole sourced" contracts involving more than $5 million for a total of $1.963 billion had been carried out from late June 2003 to late June 2004.
Of those contracts, KBR had a contract worth $1.367 billion and carried out 10 task orders but the monitoring board's statement did not specify the quality of KBR's work.
The board said it met in Amman, Jordan to discuss the matter on October 4 and 5.
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04-12-2008, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by A. Crowley
Republicants should pay for this war, after they serve two tours in Iraq.
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then that means the democrats will have to pay for all the welfare programs, how fitting.
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04-12-2008, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wow
Iraq has already paid the US several billion dollars and much more is coming.
Iraq has a $20 Billion surplus for 2007 alone.
You are using the lives of innocent Americans for political gain and tell the Al Qaida they have supporters in America.
You should have to pay a special tax to comfort the families that lost a loved one fighting in Iraq.
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Don't you ever tire of showing your stupidity?
If there was an idiot award, you'd pull away from the pack.
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04-12-2008, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cat's meow
Bush at all time low of 28% and this shows why, time to get out of Iraq. The surge did not work. Two stories...
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Yes of course, and this must be done before the election right? That way History will judge the current administration for cutting and running when the US has to go back in in full force in a few years? Plus, everyone knows that the Democrats are not stupid enough to pull out and leave that part of the world and allow it to be over run with terrorists, so they very well know if they just happen to pull out the election they will be saddled with the same problems this administration has faced and will be proven to be just as incompetent or more so in solving the problems they are boasting to have all the solutions for. Can anyone say.....GULLIBLE? BD
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04-13-2008, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wow
Iraq has a $20 Billion surplus for 2007 alone.
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Great...they can pay for the sales tax on the war for the year.
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04-13-2008, 02:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by areyoushittin'me?
Great...they can pay for the sales tax on the war for the year.
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Or they could send it to the Treasury Department to help with our deficits.
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