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03-20-2008, 02:54 AM
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Ex-chief weapons inspector slams Iraq war as 'tragedy'
Ex-chief weapons inspector slams Iraq war as 'tragedy'
LONDON (AFP) - Hans Blix, the former chief UN weapons inspector, slammed the Iraq war as a "tragedy" and blamed it on leaders ignoring the facts, in a comment piece published Thursday.
Writing in The Guardian on the five-year anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq, Blix, who clashed with Washington in the run-up to the Iraq war, described the war as "a tragedy -- for Iraq, for the US, for the UN, for truth and human dignity."
In the sub-headline to the comment piece, Blix, who headed the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, wrote that responsibility for the war "must lie with those who ignored the facts five years ago".
At the time of the Iraq war, Blix accused the US and Britain of exaggerating the threat from Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's alleged "weapons of mass destruction" -- traces of which have never been found.
In his comment piece, he said the war was a "setback in the world's efforts to develop legal restraints on the use of armed force between states" and added that in 2003, "Iraq was not a real or imminent threat to anybody."
Blix wrote that had coalition troops not deposed Saddam, "he would, in all likelihood, have become another Kadhafi or Castro; an oppressor of his own people but no longer a threat to the world."
He said that one positive sign to emerge from the conflict was that "it may be that the spectacular failure of ensuring disarmament by force, and of introducing democracy by occupation, will work in favour of a greater use of diplomacy and 'soft power'."
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03-20-2008, 02:58 AM
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And now...we've been in Iraq for longer than we were involved in WW2.
And for what?
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03-20-2008, 09:24 AM
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To benefit zionist Israel and it's quest for global, behind the scenes, domination.
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03-20-2008, 10:03 AM
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Ex-chief weapons inspector slams Iraq war as 'tragedy'
LONDON (AFP) - Hans Blix, the former chief UN weapons inspector, slammed the Iraq war as a "tragedy" and blamed it on leaders ignoring the facts, in a comment piece published Thursday.
Writing in The Guardian on the five-year anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq, Blix, who clashed with Washington in the run-up to the Iraq war, described the war as "a tragedy -- for Iraq, for the US, for the UN, for truth and human dignity."
In the sub-headline to the comment piece, Blix, who headed the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission, wrote that responsibility for the war "must lie with those who ignored the facts five years ago".
At the time of the Iraq war, Blix accused the US and Britain of exaggerating the threat from Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's alleged "weapons of mass destruction" -- traces of which have never been found.
In his comment piece, he said the war was a "setback in the world's efforts to develop legal restraints on the use of armed force between states" and added that in 2003, "Iraq was not a real or imminent threat to anybody."
Blix wrote that had coalition troops not deposed Saddam, "he would, in all likelihood, have become another Kadhafi or Castro; an oppressor of his own people but no longer a threat to the world."
He said that one positive sign to emerge from the conflict was that "it may be that the spectacular failure of ensuring disarmament by force, and of introducing democracy by occupation, will work in favour of a greater use of diplomacy and 'soft power'."
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http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/nerve-gas-scare.html
Hans Blix could not even find the WMD in the office of the weapon inspectors, much less the 500 WMD in Iraq that is listed in the declassified House report and yet you want to try to use him as an expert in areas he knows even less about than finding WMD. We can only hope the weapon inspectors were grossly incompetent or the presence of WMD in New York City would be much more ominous.
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03-20-2008, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/nerve-gas-scare.html
Hans Blix could not even find the WMD in the office of the weapon inspectors, much less the 500 WMD in Iraq that is listed in the declassified House report and yet you want to try to use him as an expert in areas he knows even less about than finding WMD. We can only hope the weapon inspectors were grossly incompetent or the presence of WMD in New York City would be much more ominous.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah.....
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03-20-2008, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf
blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/08/nerve-gas-scare.html
Hans Blix could not even find the WMD in the office of the weapon inspectors, much less the 500 WMD in Iraq that is listed in the declassified House report and yet you want to try to use him as an expert in areas he knows even less about than finding WMD. We can only hope the weapon inspectors were grossly incompetent or the presence of WMD in New York City would be much more ominous.
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Hi Ken,
I see that you continue to push the "500 WMDs" as the Holy Grail....makes the last five years worth it, right???
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03-20-2008, 10:46 AM
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Again with the eloquence.
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03-20-2008, 01:50 PM
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Hi Ken,
I see that you continue to push the "500 WMDs" as the Holy Grail....makes the last five years worth it, right???
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I will spell it out for you slowly. Jan was saying Blix is an expert on Iraq or he/she would not have quoted him, she was saying that no WMD was found. Both are lies. The truth is what is, not what Jan wants it to be.
If you want to say the last 5 years are not worth it, then that is a viable arguement as it is an opinion. You cannot base your opinion on falsehoods that there were not WMD in Iraq. You can say there was no new WMD being produced, you can say that some of the WMD found had decayed to the point were it was not a dangerous. WMD was found so to say it was not is a lie.
We can look into the future and determine that simply withdrawing right now would lead to long term disasters for American civilians. Even Clinton and Obama say they cannot guarantee to be out of Iraq by the end of 2012.
edit: If the WMD found in New York City was not lost due to gross imcompetence by Blix and his inspectors then was it there as part of a terrorist plot.
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03-20-2008, 02:13 PM
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I second that
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03-20-2008, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kgpoolerev
I will spell it out for you slowly. Jan was saying Blix is an expert on Iraq or he/she would not have quoted him, she was saying that no WMD was found. Both are lies. The truth is what is, not what Jan wants it to be.
If you want to say the last 5 years are not worth it, then that is a viable arguement as it is an opinion. You cannot base your opinion on falsehoods that there were not WMD in Iraq. You can say there was no new WMD being produced, you can say that some of the WMD found had decayed to the point were it was not a dangerous. WMD was found so to say it was not is a lie.
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Hi Ken,
No reason to go slowly, buddy....so, you have been reading my comments, huh?
No one doubts that Saddam had an active WMD program in the 80s; in fact, you could argue the US was complicit in this program...especially where the Iranian victims were concerned. The key questions in 2003 were 1) Does Iraq have a viable and active WMD program and 2) does it pose a threat to the US and its allies.
The answer to both questions is a resounding NO. And these 500 random old shells don't affect these answers one iota. You can keep trying to imply by claiming that "WMD "was found in Iraq (Hey, Bush was right all along!) that the answers to the above questions are yes...., but, it doesn't make it so.
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We can look into the future and determine that simply withdrawing right now would lead to long term disasters for American civilians. Even Clinton and Obama say they cannot guarantee to be out of Iraq by the end of 2012.
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Different argument.
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edit: If the WMD found in New York City was not lost due to gross imcompetence by Blix and his inspectors then was it there as part of a terrorist plot.
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Huh? I'm not following this statement. WMD found in NYC? From where??
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