>>>So what d'ya think? Is the surge working because a) Bush says it is working, or b) the is surge working because Muqtada called a cease-fire before the surge began?

We might start finding out on Saturday, eh?

1. The surge began Febraury of 2007. The JAM ceasefire began August of 2007, a full 6 months after the surge began.

2. The JAM ceasefire was extended for a further 6 months.

You fail

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And BTW, the answer is C. The surge is working because its driven AQI from its strongholds in Anbar, Baghhad, and Diyala, province handover is at 50 percent, insurgent activities has been reduced by two thirds, ISF operations have taken the lead and are becoming self sufficient and independent, and politicial reconciliation is making headway in the central Iraqi government.

Any one else want to be a dip shit like George?

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Its working in the short term aspect of things, for all we know they could have took off and went into Iran, or acted like normal civilians with no terror ties until the surge is done. Poor strategic planning on the Bush Administration again,but then again what other plan has George Bush left the people that are going to have this fix this war? We will soon see it when a Democrat gets into office and takes all the blame for George Bush's war.

They did leave the country, thats already been proven. They didnt just "blend with the population" because the Iraqi people are the ones who helped drive them out. They wont let them back in, and if they do come back in, the Iraqi people as well as the ISF will push them back out. The Iraqi army and police have come a long way since its first conception.

Iwish I could be there to see the look on your faces when McCain wins office and Iraq is stablized. And tell me, how are the "people" going to fix the war?

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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Norman Thomas

It's working for the short term, they're just blending in with the general population until they're ready to strike again. When the Iraqi army takes over completely and there is peace in Iraq you can say it worked, not before... How has it been "proven" they've already left the country?

Dont you watch the news? I already told you theyre not within the locals, and already explained why, if you have a hard time paying attention, you really have no business talking to me. I never said it worked, I said its WORKING. As in, still going on, still happening right now, as in going down the right path. Not quite there yet but will be soon enough.

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The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.

Norman Thomas

You hope the Iraqi security forces will push them back out. You know these people might just completely fail us once we leave, or stop cooperating with us if we do something to their own people by accident. It's a complete mess, however it's a good short term strategy.

I wish you could see my face with all the Obamacans vote for him and not McCain. McCain wouldnt matter if we stayed in Iraqi for 1000 years so long as there is no one dieing and getting hurt. I dont want that, and majority of Americans do not want that. This was a dumb war, and McCain sucks Bush's cock on everyword about the war. Majority of the Americans do not support the war, thus giving Barack the edge come November. People will really decide and think about the issue when it comes down to it. Are we really going to stay and fight this war at troop levels of 150,000 forever? Or, are we going to draw our forces down and be right back at square one?

One more thing. The People, nor any administration is going to fix this war. United States certainly isnt going to fix the mess, militarly , or diplomatically. It's going to deal with the Iraqi's and do what they do.

Yeah right, and you know everything don't ya? It is WORKING for the short term only.
As for not talking to you anymore, your wish is granted..