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Old 01-13-2008, 01:20 PM
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Why is everyone buying into this? Because the media tells us to?
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:22 PM
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nopes its a cause its a da truth cant yu see it
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Old 01-13-2008, 01:27 PM
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Why is everyone buying into this? Because the media tells us to?
Not sure what standards you set, but when even the Liberal media grudgingly admits it's working it probably is.
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:00 PM
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Why is everyone buying into this? Because the media tells us to?
liberalmomma--the democrat owned media doesnt tell us to believe the surge is working--they dont mention the surge--they hardly mention Iraq--because the surge is working--we are winning--and the democrat investement in defeat isnt going to pay off as they hoped. The promotion of victory and sucess is not liberal in nature.
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I guess, I should have expanded my thoughts. Yes, violence/death has slowed, but the main focus of the surge was for the Iraqi government to take over some control of their own government. That has not happened. Not even close.

Also, many other countries have pulled out of Iraq, from various areas, thus also cutting down on the death numbers and violence.

Some reporter heard some other reporter say "hey, I think this might be working" and it caught on. The media is too stupid to actually research anything.

The last point is, usually for something to be considered a success, that means it has serve the purpose for which is was intended. So, how exactly has this served the purpose for which it was intended? When will the Iraqi's step up? Never. We will be in that shit hole of a country until the end of fuckin' time.
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Wasn't the purpose of "the surge" for the Iraqi government to FINALLY stand up for themselves???

That hasn't happened and it NEVER will. American military are fuck ups and the ONLY hope for Iraq is an immediate withdraw of American troops. This will be the ONLY way these fucking illiterate savages will EVER stand up for themselves.

Those that believe the surge is working are delusional.
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Ron Paul is the only one running who realizes that. The rest want war forever, we've become the Klingons.

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I guess, I should have expanded my thoughts. Yes, violence/death has slowed, but the main focus of the surge was for the Iraqi government to take over some control of their own government. That has not happened. Not even close.
Yes--the talking point heard from every democrat when asked about the surge. The focus of the surge was to bring down violence and give the Iraqi government a chance to function. The surge worked--violence is down--the Iraqi government has been given a chance--its just too bad there are so many liberals in Iraq.

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Also, many other countries have pulled out of Iraq, from various areas, thus also cutting down on the death numbers and violence.
Not sure exactly what you mean by that--but it seems your saying the presence of foreign troops on Iraqi soil is causing the violence. Are you saying if the US withdrew all its forces tomorrow--violence would decrease? Would Iraq return to the most peaceful and pleasant place on Earth--as liberals tend to portray it--that is before evil America had to ruin everything.

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Some reporter heard some other reporter say "hey, I think this might be working" and it caught on. The media is too stupid to actually research anything.

The last point is, usually for something to be considered a success, that means it has serve the purpose for which is was intended. So, how exactly has this served the purpose for which it was intended? When will the Iraqi's step up? Never. We will be in that shit hole of a country until the end of fuckin' time.
Liberals demand 30 second wars--and insist a functioning government should only take a day or two to create. Now back to the real world--we are making progress--despite the lack of progress in the Iraqi liberal government--there is still a lot of progress being made n other areas. In case you missed it....
General: Anbar ready for handover - Yahoo! News

The Iraqi's are stepping up--as our troops are stepping down--victory is on the horizon--even if the Iraqi government fails to function--if the Iraqi security forces can handle the security of the country--we can start bringing our boys home.

Our democrat controlled congress cant acomplish anything but renaming post offices--and yet they insist a perfect Iraqi government be developed overnight. Yet again proving--there is no pleasing liberals
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