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Old 12-25-2007, 08:56 AM
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What president declared the baathist regime an enemy seeking NBC weapons?
Who coined that term, WMD?
Who sent a barrage of missiles
that..in ACTION..
declared war on Iraq..?
Who's subsequent follow-up allowed for BILLIONS in corruption
with Food For Oil?
What presidents actions turned extremists against the US?
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:46 AM
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Clearly, you are a CT-addled nutcase.

In the 60s, the CIA was indeed pretty out-of-control and did all sorts of wacky stuff here and abroad.

Today? At best, CIA is a paper tiger too mired in protecting its own budgetary and power rice bowls to do much else.

Anyone who seriously believes Bush (no correct me if I am wrong, but conversely you will claim Bush is a stumble-tongued Daddy's boy who can't wipe his own behind without detailed directions and two assistants, and yet here he is orchestrating the most nefarious and complicated conspiracy since the Illuminati and the Templars hid the fact that Jesus married the Magdelene and started the French line of monarchs...) somehow orchestrated this attack and is behind the conspiracy to keep that a secret for all these years is either an utter moron or off his Zoloft.

Which is it here?

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The fact that Osama bin Laden --"who America was told planned and executed the attacks of September 11, 2001," murdering thousands of people -- is still not a target of the President of the United States some six years later should tell everyone in this country one thing: George W. Bush has no intention of ever capturing Osama and bringing him to justice...
And why is that? George W. Bush knows Osama had nothing to do with 9/11, and second, the Bin Ladens and the Bush families have been business partners for over 50 years...In fact, we might as well call it B&B company, because that's what it truly is!
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:51 PM
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Ok..lets start with the current history of false flag Op's..i will list so much evidence that it will make your head spin...ready?
  • 23 Warning were officially sent to the US warning of the coming attacks from 11 foreign governments, many specifically mentioning the use of planes and symbolic urban targets.
  • Two weeks before 9/11 the head of security for the Twin Towers, Marvin Bush, brother of the President, shut down power and security to the Twin Towers and rewired the building for "Ethernet". The week before 9/11 he removed all bomb sniffer dogs.
  • 3 months before 911, in June of 2001 the U.S. government started a express visa program eliminating the need for any interview or background checks for visa’s. The program was only imitated in Saudi Arabia. Deputy Sec of State & PNAT member, Richard Armatage, rejected challenges by justice department regarding the terrorists that applied through the special program.
  • As a know terrorist, hijacker Mohamed Atta who trained at Wally Hillard's Huffman Aviation, was also enrolled in U.S. Air Force International Officers School of Aviation.
  • FBI Agent Harry Sanett, warned his superiors over 70 times that there was going to be an attack. FBI Agent Coleen Rowley wrote that the Minneapolis FBI agents became so frustrated that they began to joke that the FBI headquarters was becoming an “unwitting accomplice” to Osama bin Laden’s efforts to attack the U.S. FBI Agent Robert Reich resigned and sued FBI for blocking his efforts to investigate the terrorists.
  • On August 22, 2001, John O’Neill, the FBI’s leading authority on Al Qaeda, resigned from the FBI because of the repeated obstructions of his investigations into Al Quaeda. Following his resignation he was offered a job as head of security for the World Trade Center and was moved into his office in World Trade center on the day before 9/11. On the eve of 9/11 he tells his colleague Jerry Hower “We’re due for something big” – O’Neal was killed on 9/11.
  • Lt Cornel Anthony Shaffer associated with the military’s Able Danger Unit indicated that their unit identified Mohammed Atta and three other hijackers more than a year before the attack. Military lawyers blocked the unit from sharing the information with the FBI. Shafer was threatened by his superior that if he did not ignore Atta he would be fired.
  • Cibell Edmonds a translator covering 9/11 for the FBI, has had more government gag orders placed on her than any other person in the history of the U.S. She stated: “I saw papers that show US knew al-Qa’ida would attack cities with airplanes.. I gave the commission details of specific investigation files the specific dates the specific target information, the specific managers in charge of the investigation I gave them everything so that they could go back and follow up. This is not hearsay, these are things that are documented these things can be established very easily.”
  • Congressman Curt Weldon indicated that they have a government witness who has come forward who was ordered to destroy 2.5 Terabytes of data regarding hijacker Atta in summer of 2000.
  • On the morning of 9/11 the CIA just so happened to be running an alleged simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.
  • Newsweek learned that a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled their travel plans for the next morning of 9/11 for security reasons
  • Unprecedented Put trading options betting that United & American Airlines stock price would crash were placed just before 9/11. The number three man in the CIA, Buzzy Kongard, managed the bank that placed the suspicious put options on the airlines.
  • Despite the horrific, unprecedented amount of death and destruction in New York City on 9/11/01, the U.S. Government spent only $600,000 for its single study of the causes for the WTC Buildings' collapses (against the $40 million that was spent for investigation of Bill Clinton's activities with Monica Lewinksy in 1988-1999).

A jet engine burns jet fuel for hours, days, even years without melting. However no jet engine has steel walls that are even a quarter as thick as the four inch thick steel girders that held up the twin towers. It is categorically and utterly impossible for the jet fuel from the planes that hit the Twin Towers to have melted the steel girders that held up the Twin Towers, the girders had to have been destroyed by something vastly more intense and powerful such as Thermate induced explosives used by demolition companies such “Controlled Demolition”, the company mysteriously called to urgently remove the evidence from the crime scene before investigators could see it.



By 'coincidence' Controlled Demolition, Inc. is the same contractor who demolished and hauled away the shell of the bombed Oklahoma City Murrah building. Under Federal Law, it is illegal to remove evidence from the scene of a crime. Furthermore, the Twin Towers started collapsing from the top not the bottom.





It is categorically impossible for any amount of jet fuel burning in open air to cause the collapse of the Twin Tower structure which was specifically designed to withstand multiple jet aircraft crashing into it. Seismographic evidence showed that the impact of the planes hitting the towers on 9/11 was no greater than what the towers regularly withstood from heavy storms. Furthermore, building 7 which housed CIA and FBI evidence of extraordinary government corruption collapsed all by itself. Eye witness and Video evidence of the Twin Towers and Building 7 collapse irrefutably record the demolition explosives going off demolishing the building on it's footprint.





When informed that “America is under attack” President Bush, picked up a children’s book to read it and gauze aimlessly around the children’s classroom and did absolutely nothing until the class was over. (Guess he forgot he could have put his hand up and asked the teacher permission to leave because America was being attacked). On the morning of 9/11 during the attacks, the Top Ranking US Military Man in Uniform, Joint Chief of Staff, General Myers remained in a meeting with Senator Max Cleland, like Bush, apparently he was unaware or unconcerned about the attacks.





On the morning of 9/11 Pakistani General Mohamed Ahmed who it was later discovered instructed Ahmad Umar Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohammed Atta, was in a breakfast meeting with Senator Bob Graham (FL) and Representative Porta Goss (FL), both Chairmen of the Senate & House’s Intelligence Committees. Grahm and Goss were appointed as Chairmen of the 9/11 inquiry. An article published the day before 9/11 in the Pakistan Press speculated as to the reasons for week long meetings between General Mohamed Ahmed and the Pentagon, the National Security Counsel and the White House the week before 9/11.
The brazen nature in which the U.S. government has attempted to convince the public that the Bush regime had no involvement in the plot to destroy the Twin Towers illustrated how the government believes the U.S. public is utterly stupid, incompetent and feeble.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:58 PM
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Now....a little history....ready?

President Franklin D. Roosevelt knew the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor:
Newly released naval records prove that from November 17 to 25 the United States Navy intercepted eighty-three messages that Yamamoto sent to his carriers. Part of the November 25 message read: “…the task force, keeping its movements strictly secret and maintaining close guard against submarines and aircraft, shall advance into Hawaiian waters, and upon the very opening of hostilities shall attack the main force of the United States fleet in Hawaii and deal it a mortal blow…”


Multiple sources reveal irrefutable evidence that Franklyn D. Roosevelt had foreknowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbor. FDR along with his co-conspirators went as far as to setup the troops stationed at Pearl Harbor for slaughter so as to incite the American public into the war.


"This country is … ready to pull the trigger if the Japs do anything. I mean we won’t stand any nonsense, public opinion won’t… if they do some fool thing.” FDR goes on to summaries the latest news from Japan (FDR can be heard rapping his knuckles on his desk to emphasize the point).

“There will be no war with the United States… on one condition, and one condition only…. The United States demilitarize all of its naval and air and army bases in Wake, Midway, and Pearl Harbor. - God! That’s the first time that any damn Jap has told us to get out of Hawaii!”


"The only thing that worries me is that the Germans and the Japs have gone along, and the Italians, for—oh, gosh—five, six years without their foot slipping—without their misjudging foreign opinion…. And the time may be coming when the Germans and the Japs will do some fool thing that would put us in. That’s the only real danger of our getting in—is that their foot will slip.”
- Franklin D. Roosevelt in the Oval Office in the Fall of 1940 from the FDR TAPES.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:01 PM
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Now..lets talk about the WTC again.....Did you know the C.I.A admitted that they helped bomb it in '93?......ready?

FBI & CIA Admit culpability in the February 26, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing.

The February 1993 attempt to topple the WTC failed, however, six people were killed and over 1000 injured. Astonishingly the FBI literally supplied the bomb! An undercover FBI agent, Emad Salem, recorded the head of the FBI telling him that they would thwart the terrorist attack by substituting harmless powder in the bomb they were supplying Ramzi Yousef a terrorist planning the attack. However, the FBI provided a live bomb to terrorists who were trained by the CIA to fight in the Afghan war. The CIA later concluded, in internal documents, that it was “partly culpable” for this bombing. Ramzi Yousef had close ties to bin Laden who was funded through ISA a CIA operation in Pakistan. There was absolutely no government clamp down on the FBI and CIA for bombing the WTC in 1993.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:04 PM
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Hitler wrote about Propaganda in his book...here is some more quotes and a piece from the book...read it all and then ask yourself...could the Government really be capable of this?...unfortunately the answer is yes.


“The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.” – President J. Edgar Hoover



"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State." Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels, Propaganda Minister of Nazi Germany.


"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." — Hermann Goering, Nazi leader, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II


“The masses indulge in petty falsehoods every day, but it would never come into their heads to fabricate … The bigger the lie therefore, the likelier it is to be believed.” – Adolf Hitler, mein Kampf


- full text in this regard from Mein Kampf, CHAPTER X - WHY THE SECOND REICH COLLAPSED:
..they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle – which is quite true in itself – that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.
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WOW WOW WOW WOW AND DOUBLE WOW

I am totatlly befuddled about my own government. How they can be even more secretive than the workers on Doctor No's island off the coast of Jamacia yet allow all this information to fall in the hands of the nations nut cases

No offense Flyhigher, but I think its time your visa is pulled and you return to therapy
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What president declared the baathist regime an enemy seeking NBC weapons?
Who coined that term, WMD?
Who sent a barrage of missiles
that..in ACTION..
declared war on Iraq..?
Who's subsequent follow-up allowed for BILLIONS in corruption
with Food For Oil?
What presidents actions turned extremists against the US?
( more than usual)

Hey, all these guys are in cohoots you know that. All presidents since George Washington have been Masons or Illuminati. They all have the same goal, the total destruction of the United States of America. Every president since Washington (who by the way was not the real George Washington but a hired actor, the Real Washington was assassinated right after the end of the Revolutionary War) has worked tirelessly toward selling us out to the Zionist, Gay Mafia.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:19 PM
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WOW WOW WOW WOW AND DOUBLE WOW

I am totatlly befuddled about my own government. How they can be even more secretive than the workers on Doctor No's island off the coast of Jamacia yet allow all this information to fall in the hands of the nations nut cases

No offense Flyhigher, but I think its time your visa is pulled and you return to therapy


Freedom of information act.....And yea, they do put it right out in your face..just like they said 60 years ago..you could not believe it because it's so repugnant...still, it don't make it bullshit.

Just look up the Project for a new American century..a policy document wrote in September of 2000 states that they needed a "pearl harbor" type event to get the American people to support the war in the middle east..then just by fucking luck 9/11?

Here is a little background:

Project for the New American Century, the PNAC. Other founders include Dick Cheney, now vice-president, Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, deputy defence secretary, I Lewis Libby, Cheney’s chief of staff, William J Bennett, Reagan’s education secretary, and Zalmay Khalilzad, Bush’s ambassador to Afghanistan. These are the modern chartists of American terrorism.

The PNAC’s seminal report, Rebuilding America’s Defences: strategy, forces and resources for a new century, was a blueprint of American aims in all but name.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

Years ago it recommended an increase in arms-spending by $48bn so that Washington could “fight and win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars”. This has happened. It said the United States should develop “bunker-buster” nuclear weapons and make “star wars” a national priority. This is happening. It said that, in the event of Bush taking power, Iraq should be a target. And so it is.

As for Iraq’s alleged “weapons of mass destruction”, these were dismissed, in so many words, as a convenient excuse, which it is. “While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification,” it says, “the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.” How has this grand strategy been implemented? A series of articles in the Washington Post, co-authored by Bob Woodward of Watergate fame and based on long interviews with senior members of the Bush administration, reveals how 11 September was manipulated.


On the morning of 12 September 2001, without any evidence of who the hijackers were, Rumsfeld demanded that the US attack Iraq. According to Woodward, Rumsfeld told a cabinet meeting that Iraq should be “a principal target of the first round in the war against terrorism”. Iraq was temporarily spared only because Colin Powell, the secretary of state, persuaded Bush that “public opinion has to be prepared before a move against Iraq is possible”. Afghanistan was chosen as the softer option. If Jonathan Steele’s estimate in the Guardian is correct, some 20,000 people in Afghanistan paid the price of this debate with their lives.


Time and again, 11 September is described as an “opportunity”. In last April’s New Yorker, the investigative reporter Nicholas Lemann wrote that Bush’s most senior adviser, Condoleezza Rice, told him she had called together senior members of the National Security Council and asked them “to think about ‘how do you capitalize on these opportunities’”, which she compared with those of “1945 to 1947”: the start of the cold war. Since 11 September, America has established bases at the gateways to all the major sources of fossil fuels, especially central Asia.



The Unocal oil company is to build a pipeline across Afghanistan. Bush has scrapped the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions, the war crimes provisions of the International Criminal Court and the anti-ballistic missile treaty. He has said he will use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states “if necessary”. Under cover of propaganda about Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction, the Bush regime is developing new weapons of mass destruction that undermine international treaties on biological and chemical warfare.
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:25 PM
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Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades.
Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen.

Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons.

At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.


we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them.
The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush.
We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal.

These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack the first tower." And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over.

So this was a personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity.

And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.
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