Bush lied to this country to get us into Iraq

a25052 · #21 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 01:05 PM

RWB74 said, "Your earlier Hitler comment renders you totally lacking in credibility of any kind and incapable of engaging in rational discourse."

I never quoted Hitler, so you can't read. What I have said several times is that Goebbels maxim was to repeat a lie, over and over again until it became preceived as public fact. That's a historical fact. The left in this country parctices the same thing, for example, Bush lied about WMDs. At least one exploded since the UN report. Also, Hitler was a member of the leftist socialist workers party. The left practice smear tactics is my point and they do the same thing in this country. So I can see why some leftist smear artist would be upset. But you have to be able to take what you dish out.

Constructive criticism is one thing but falsely saying Bush is corrupt, lies, etc when the man is doing his level best to help this country is simply too much.

The bottom line is the fact that the world has one hell of a problem on its hands, namely, Middle East religious fanaticism coupled with the possibility of nukes and it is going to be difficult in the extreme to solve the problem. A leader trying to do the heavy lifting needs all the support he can get, not constant, he lied and other inane false comments.

a25052 · #22 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 01:16 PM

idid.. since you disagree on how to solve the problem why don't you put forth a better way. Don't keep it a secret to yourself. Let the world know. That would be much better than bush has no integrity. I think maybe you should look in the mirror for a very long time.

a25052 · #23 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 01:23 PM

If you people want a civil conversation, you must keep it civil. Attacking the president personally is not a better way. Heck I don't agree with everything the administration has done but I do share his concern for the big broblems and I believe he is doing his best. Besides being false,saying Bush has no integrity immediately raises a red flag in anything that follows. It is a smear tactic and is non productive. To keep repeating it over and over and over again is nothing more than the practice of Goebbels maxim. Empty words coming out of an empty head.

ididnotvote4him · #24 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 06:17 PM

25 you talk about Goebbels rhetoric I think the closest analogy to him would be Karl Rove. George H Bush fired him for lying and leaking information. I agree his theory if you repaeat a lie often enough people will believe it. Did you know one of my sons friends actualy did a report in Iraq flying planes into the"empire stae building" now that may sound funny but I think a lot of americans believe this lie.

a25052 · #25 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 08:08 PM

ididnotvot..."Karl Rove. George H Bush fired him for lying and leaking information" That's new to me and the world..but evidently made up.. Bush has not fired Carl Rove. In addition, Rove hardly says anything. His last speech was one of an extremely small set. He is more of an advisor who keeps his own council for the most part. The democrats have more of less painted him as the architect of Bushs success in getting elected.. So it has built up so much in their own minds that they believe it themselves. I have no doubt he played a major part in strategy but there are many others for Bushs electoral success. I can' t get over the fact that you seem to make up stuff. Are you very old--perhaps getting a little senile. Or maybe I'm in a dream world if he resigned--but I don't think so. Maybe wishful thinking is becoming fact. Have you considered a doctor.

ididnotvote4him · #26 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 09:11 PM

No 25 I do not think you read closely...notice I said George H Bush ...that is "W" dad so I never make things upbut possible it may feel that way to you if you are not reading closely. Yes Karl rove is still an essential part of "W" administration and "W' is the first to give him credit for the re election. So no I am not old or senile and I understand your confusion as the names are similar. I am sure if you search the web you can find all the old news stories and Bush sr. and his falling out with Rove. Yes I do believe Rove would make up any lie about any candidate. In fact he was responsible for the smear campaign on John McCain when he ran against "W" in the primary. You can still find lots of information about that.

ididnotvote4him · #27 (**permalink**) 02-07-2006, 09:15 PM

Also please note I am careful to disclose if something I am saying is fact or opinion and also if I am unsure. I think as Fox CNN the weekly standard, all report Rove is the most influential person in the Bush White House now that being said my opinion is the reason we have not seen him lately is the legal trouble he is in Bush wants to keep a public distance.

ididntvotefortheidiot · #28 (**permalink**) 02-22-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by veryvegan

Bush misled America to get us into a war that we didn't want and didn't need. There were no WMD's, and Saddam Hussain had absolutely no connection to September 11th even though Dick Cheney and the rest of the Bush crew repeatedly tried to imply that he did. We need to take back this country from the people who have perverted it to its core - starting wars for profit with countries that have nothing to do with our "national security" and killing American soldiers over a fight that is really about oil and nothing else.

i totally agree with you vegan. Bush is trying to sell our country right out from underneath us. And guess what? We are loosing the battle....

a25052 · #29 (**permalink**) 03-04-2006, 09:53 AM

Eli says, "All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked ..."

yeh, right, 9/11 was a mirage. Oh i know, Saddem wasn't connected in any way with 9/11, but he was giving medical attention to terrorist from Afganistan. He was paying families of suicide bombers $25,000.00, he was etc, etc, etc, etc.

a25052 · #30 (**permalink**) 03-05-2006, 10:37 AM

Most leftist have one big problem. They are intellectually dishonest.