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12-10-2007, 02:22 PM
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The Iraqis are a good people.
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Well they are the same people, same religion and allies of the Iranians next door that have you shiting in your pants.
You are one confused little high school dropout.
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12-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Are You A Fake Poster Too Smitty
Do You Like Feminism
Or Are You A Plant To Counter Point Cookie
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12-10-2007, 02:50 PM
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How about we argue how im wrong instead of you making false accusations of my service? IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO CAN DO THIS?
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12-10-2007, 02:54 PM
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12-10-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker
And I'm not trying to pin you in a corner, so I'll address this to all who support the invasion of Iraq....
Why? Why do you support this? What has the purpose? What has been accomplished? Should we keep a permanent military base there? Why or why not?
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Yes, I support it.
1. Needed to be done for all the reasons listed in the resolution, and all the violations of the UN resolution Saddam produced since the end of the Gulf War.
2. Neede to be done for many more reasons we discovered after getting there, such as an active alliance with al Queda, an ongoing attempt to produce WMD and othewise fomenting unrest regionally and fostering terror worldwide.
3. What has been accomplished? See my post "Iraqi Quagmire"
4. Should we maintain a permanent military presence: Sure. If they will allow us after the pacification. In the same way as we neede a permanent military presence in Europe after WWII to keep the Soviets at bay, we need a presence in the ME to keep the Islamofascists from taking over the whole place and, as they promise nearly daily, "drive the Jew-dogs into the sea!"
You don't like any of this because our success there is a slap in your face. You opposed this, just as you would have opposed ANY progressive act by a sitting R president, but especially "this president." Our success there shows that you were utterly wrong, and you can't stand this.
You don't like it as well, because there is a national election approaching, and the candidates on your (socilist, anti-American, anti-Western) side are scratching each other's eyes out to be the most "anti-Iraq war" candidate. Whether it's Osama Obama or Hitlery running on your side, our success in Iraq while they shriek that it's an utter failure makes them both out to be liars and hypocrites.
And that just looks bad.
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12-10-2007, 03:32 PM
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LOL. Go to Iraq Cookie. Only then will you understand me!
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After you, Smitty....after you... 
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12-10-2007, 03:32 PM
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Yes, I support it.
1. Needed to be done for all the reasons listed in the resolution, and all the violations of the UN resolution Saddam produced since the end of the Gulf War.
2. Neede to be done for many more reasons we discovered after getting there, such as an active alliance with al Queda, an ongoing attempt to produce WMD and othewise fomenting unrest regionally and fostering terror worldwide.
3. What has been accomplished? See my post "Iraqi Quagmire"
4. Should we maintain a permanent military presence: Sure. If they will allow us after the pacification. In the same way as we neede a permanent military presence in Europe after WWII to keep the Soviets at bay, we need a presence in the ME to keep the Islamofascists from taking over the whole place and, as they promise nearly daily, "drive the Jew-dogs into the sea!"
You don't like any of this because our success there is a slap in your face. You opposed this, just as you would have opposed ANY progressive act by a sitting R president, but especially "this president." Our success there shows that you were utterly wrong, and you can't stand this.
You don't like it as well, because there is a national election approaching, and the candidates on your (socilist, anti-American, anti-Western) side are scratching each other's eyes out to be the most "anti-Iraq war" candidate. Whether it's Osama Obama or Hitlery running on your side, our success in Iraq while they shriek that it's an utter failure makes them both out to be liars and hypocrites.
And that just looks bad.
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Wont talk with you here anymore than elsewhere...you lack sources and your labeling lacks verification....opinions and lies are all you have...
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12-10-2007, 03:52 PM
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Its really sad that our service is being called into question simply because were telling them things they dont want to hear. If you want me to prove myself, how would you like me to do it? I can tell you about my enlistment so far if youd like.
I went to Ft Benning for OSUT in September 2004, was assigned to C Company 1-50 Infantry for training. After that I attended Javelin school and was sent to Ft Wainwright Alaska where I deployed with the 172nd SBCT. Spent the first 6 months in a town called Rawah in the Anbar province working mainly with the 2nd MEF during Operation Steel Curtain.
After that, our company was moved to Mosul to link up with the rest of the brigade and did 6 months of raids, patrols, and humanitarian missions. 4 days away from coming home, our brigade was extended and sent to Baghdad for a further 4 months. We spent that time conducting "clear, hold build" operations while under the 4th ID commander MG Thurman. (Who is an asshole if Id like to add) We cleared Shaab, Ur, and the Monsour neighborhoods as well as a bunch of others I cant remember the names of.
I was a dismount, driver, saw gunner, rifleman, and loader on the ATGM. I was rotated through the positions roughly once a month. I earned my CIB within the first month I arrived in country. Upon my return to Ft Wainwright in December of 06, I received PCS orders to Ft Riley Kansas.
In April, I arrived in my new duty station and was assigned the 3rd BDE 1st AD and spent 5 months as a fireteam leader. I then volunteered for reassignment to 4th BDE 1st ID to go to Iraq as a replacement, and Ive been here ever since. What else do you want to know, want me to go into detail about anything? Or are you just gonna respond to this with more insults?
Does it scare you to know that there are actual OIF vets among you who know whats what about the ground situation over there, and youre afraid to know the truth of the matter because it doesnt mold to your warped sense of reality?
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12-10-2007, 04:15 PM
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How about we argue how im wrong instead of you making false accusations of my service? IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO CAN DO THIS?
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How about you prove why you think y ou are right with sources as opposed to your allegations you are in the service and been there?
CAN YOU DO THIS?
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12-10-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker
Its really sad that our service is being called into question simply because were telling them things they dont want to hear. If you want me to prove myself, how would you like me to do it? I can tell you about my enlistment so far if youd like.
I went to Ft Benning for OSUT in September 2004, was assigned to C Company 1-50 Infantry for training. After that I attended Javelin school and was sent to Ft Wainwright Alaska where I deployed with the 172nd SBCT. Spent the first 6 months in a town called Rawah in the Anbar province working mainly with the 2nd MEF during Operation Steel Curtain.
After that, our company was moved to Mosul to link up with the rest of the brigade and did 6 months of raids, patrols, and humanitarian missions. 4 days away from coming home, our brigade was extended and sent to Baghdad for a further 4 months. We spent that time conducting "clear, hold build" operations while under the 4th ID commander MG Thurman. (Who is an asshole if Id like to add) We cleared Shaab, Ur, and the Monsour neighborhoods as well as a bunch of others I cant remember the names of.
I was a dismount, driver, saw gunner, rifleman, and loader on the ATGM. I was rotated through the positions roughly once a month. I earned my CIB within the first month I arrived in country. Upon my return to Ft Wainwright in December of 06, I received PCS orders to Ft Riley Kansas.
In April, I arrived in my new duty station and was assigned the 3rd BDE 1st AD and spent 5 months as a fireteam leader. I then volunteered for reassignment to 4th BDE 1st ID to go to Iraq as a replacement, and Ive been here ever since. What else do you want to know, want me to go into detail about anything? Or are you just gonna respond to this with more insults?
Does it scare you to know that there are actual OIF vets among you who know whats what about the ground situation over there, and youre afraid to know the truth of the matter because it doesnt mold to your warped sense of reality?
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rofflmfao!!!
You don't know the truth if you are ground troops....that's the silly thing of your assertion...
You are fragmented in a small area in a small part of a large country. Can YOU see the invasion of Turkey from where you are? Can YOU see the prisoners being tortured from where you are? See, I can...I don't need to be there...there are reporters who are there...and a Congress that has all the funds that are being spent and who gets the money and what is allocated for themilitary and who is NOT getting it....
So, you claim all youwant....you can't prove it...and let me tell you....you are not giving yourself any credibility by even STATING this....you are giving out secret information NO miliatry personnel is ALLOWED to do...
So, Smitty, try again...
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