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Old 11-30-2007, 04:18 PM
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Further, “By transiting through Afghanistan, Unocal’s CentGas pipeline project was meant to bypass the more direct southbound route across Iran. Unocal’s design was to develop a dual pipeline system that would also transport Kazakhstan’s huge oil reserves in the Tenghiz Northern Caspian region to the Arabian Sea,” a University of Ottawa economics professor Michel Chossudovsky noted in his book, America’s “War on Terrorism”, and he continued,



the Clinton administration decided to back the installation of a Taliban government in Kabul in 1996, as opposed to the Northern Alliance, which was backed by Moscow.”36 Bridas, a company which also had a significant part in the pipeline project, was facing financial difficulties in 1997, and so 60% of it was bought up by the American Oil Company (Amoco), which later merged with British Petroleum in 1998. And, as Chossudovsky pointed out, “Former National Security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, was a consultant to Amoco,” which became BP-Amoco after the merger, and “BP controls the westbound pipeline consortium in which Unocal has a significant stake.”37



On top of this, “Henry Kissinger, a former Secretary of State, was advising Unocal Corporation,” and “At the very outset of the Bush administration, Unocal (which had withdrawn in 1998 from pipeline negotiations under the Clinton administration) reintegrated the CentGas Consortium and resumed its talks with the Taliban (in January 2001), with the firm backing, this time, of senior officials of the Bush administration, including Deputy Secretary of State, Richard Armitage had previously been a lobbyist for Unocal.”38 However, the Taliban failed to properly provide security and stability for the pipeline project, but, after the occupation of Afghanistan in 2001, Hamid Karzai was appointed as head of the government in Kabul, and currently still is President of the country, and had, since the 1990s,



“acted as a consultant and lobbyist for Unocal in negotiations with the Taliban.”39 As Nafeez Ahmed points out in his book, The War on Truth, “President Bush appointed a former aide to the American oil company UNOCAL, Zalmay Khalilzad, as special envoy to Afghanistan,”40 who also happened to be one of the members of the PNAC [Project for the New American Century] think tank.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported in September of 2001, that “Beyond American determination to hit back against the perpetrators of the Sept. 11 attacks, beyond the likelihood of longer, drawn-out battles producing more civilian casualties in the months and years ahead, the hidden stakes in the war against terrorism can be summed up in a single word: oil,” and that “The map of terrorist sanctuaries and targets in the Middle East and Central Asia is also, to an extraordinary degree, a map of the world's principal energy sources in the 21st century.”41 It continued, “The terrain of the globe's energy future ranges along a swath of mountain and desert with resource-poor Afghanistan and Pakistan at its volatile eastern end. Outside of this core, where suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden and many of his supporters are located, terrorist groups are active in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Bahrain, the Gulf Emirates, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Sudan and Algeria. Their operations also threaten to destabilize regimes in Turkmenistan, Kazakstan and Azerbaijan. They also are active in areas -- such as Chechnya, Georgia and eastern Turkey -- where major pipelines carry energy resources to markets worldwide,” and then stated, “It is inevitable that the war against terrorism will be seen by many as a war on behalf of America's Chevron, ExxonMobil and Arco; France's TotalFinaElf; British Petroleum; Royal Dutch Shell and other multinational giants, which have hundreds of billions of dollars of investment in the region.”


So, clearly, there is much more to the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan than is commonly understood, and it was necessary to address this, as it has largely transformed the Middle Eastern and Eurasian landscape, which Iran also occupies. Take into account that Afghanistan itself is not an oil-rich country, but its position is very significant for Anglo-American strategy in the region, as it is a vital route to transport such resources, with a much-expressed intent of diverting them away from Russia, as it has clearly been stated in both the 1992 Wolfowtiz Doctrine and the 2000 PNAC document, as being one of the primary elements in US geostrategy; containing Russia and maintaining the US’ position as the sole superpower in the world.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:23 PM
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Iraq and Operation Oil Domination:

On March 20, 2003, using the now well known lies of “weapons of mass destruction”, & possible nuclear weapons programs” and “links to 9/11”, Iraq was invaded. The first two points were outlined clearly in the 2000 PNAC document, in which they discussed the American strategy of confronting regimes which may possess WMDs or nuclear weapons programs, and in fact, it was those very people that wrote that document which were instrumental in pushing those lies to the public. As for the links to 9/11, which have since been conclusively denounced as outright fiction, it stood as their ‘new Pearl Harbor’, for which was the justification for invading Iraq. I will not spend much space discussing the war in Iraq, but will cover some of the oil geopolitics surrounding the war, as again, it is vital to understanding the current conflicts with Iran, as after all, it is Iran’s neighbor, and was the vital point from which the British launched their joint-Russian invasion of Iran in 1941 out of their Iraqi bases.





As Greg Palast pointed out in his book, Armed Madhouse, the original name for the operation of invading Iraq was known as “Operation Iraqi Liberation”, or, under its acronym, OIL. However, as Palast notes, it was slightly too obvious, even for the Bush administration who are not known to deal in subtleties, and so they changed it to “Operation Iraqi Liberation”.42 The original person chosen to be the United States’ viceroy to Iraq was General Jay Garner. However, as Palast notes, “Garner, fresh off the plane from the USA, promised Iraqis they would have free and fair elections as soon Saddam was toppled, preferably within 90 days. That was a problem,” and further, “Seizing ownership of the oil was not on Garner’s must-do list, nor was Washington’s rewrite of the tax laws and trade rules, and the rest of the elaborate free-market makeover scheme.


In his mind, such radical legislation required a legitimate government.”43 So, Garner was replaced within months, and “in Rumsfeld’s replacement for Garner, they had just the man for the fight. Unlike Garner, Paul Bremer III had no experience on the ground in Iraq, no training to fight a guerilla insurgency, and no background in nation-building. But he had one unbeatable credential that Garner lacked: Bremer had served as Managing Director of Kissinger and Associates.


Thirty years ago, in greenlighting the assassination of Chile’s elected president [on September 11, 1973], Henry Kissinger said, ‘The issues are too important to be left for the voters’,”44 and Henry Kissinger is CEO of Kissinger and Associates. A bank law that Bremer passed sold off Iraqi banks to three foreign banks, “Hong King Shanghai Banking Corporation [HSBC], National Bank of Kuwait and Standard Chartered Bank of London, the junior partners of JP Morgan Chase of New York.”45


Palast continued, “It has been a very good war for Big Oil – courtesy of OPEC price hikes. The five oil giants saw profits rise from $34 billion in 2002 to $81 billion in 2004, year two of Iraq’s ‘transition to democracy.’ But this tsunami of black ink was nothing compared to the wave of $113 billion in profits to come in 2005: $13.6 billion for Conoco, $14.1 billion for Chevron and the Mother of All Earnings, Exxon’s $36.1 billion. For these record-busting earnings, the industry could thank General Tommy Franks and the troops in Baghdad, the insurgents and their oil-supply-cutting explosives. But, most of all, they had to thank OPEC and the Saudis for keeping the lid on supply even as the planet screamed in pain for crude,” and further, “the [oil] industry has its own reserves whose value is attached, like a suckerfish, to OPEC’s price targets.



Here’s a statistic you won’t see on Army recruitment posters: The rise in the price of oil after the first three years of the war boosted the value of the reserves of Exxon Mobil Oil alone by just over $666 billion. The devil is in the details. Smaller Chevron Oil, where Condoleezza Rice had served as a director, gained a quarter trillion dollars in value.”46
As Greg Palast well documents in his book, there were two plans being developed about what to do with Iraq’s oil. One was developed by the neo-conservatives from the Project for the New American Century and other neo-con think tanks, and the other plan was developed by the oil multinationals. The Neo-Con plan was about destroying OPEC, and to do that, they argued, Iraq needed to privatize all its oil. As Iraq, an OPEC member, was occupied in 2003 by the US, it gave Bush & Co. an important seat at the OPEC table, which is the organization that determines world oil prices. Palast points out that, “what George Bush should do with his OPEC perch is what requires the occupation to drag on, not the provincial tussle between Shias and Sunnis, but the gladiatorial fight to the death between neo-cons and the Big Oil establishment.”


47 Palast states that for the neo-cons at the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation (neo-con think tanks), the ultimate target was not Iraq, but Saudi Arabia, and “Getting at the Saudis required tearing apart OPEC. And tearing apart OPEC was completely dependent on the privatization of Iraq’s oil reserves, the second-largest in OPEC after the Saudis,” and Palast, through his interview with one of the top neo-cons who came up with the plan, laid it down in plain English, “[1] OPEC’s power comes from imposing production limits (“quotas”) on its member states, limiting supply and raising prices. [2] Iraq’s quota is well below what it can produce. Iraq kept a limit on output through its 100% government-owned oil monopoly. [3] If you sell off Iraq’s oil fields in itty-bitty pieces, dozens of operators will maximize their production from each field, jumping up Iraq’s output to 6 million barrels of oil a day, way above the OPEC quota. [4] The additional two million barrels of oil a day from Iraq will flood the market, OPEC will dissolve into mass cheating and break apart. With every nation pumping to the max, the price of oil will fall over a cliff, and . . . [5] . . . Saudi Arabia, financially and politically, will fall to its knees,” and as well as this, the neo-cons emphasized that, “with OPEC smashed, the former Soviet states, including Russia, completely dependent on oil income, will be at America’s mercy.”48


However, this insane neo-con plan was not implemented; why? The Oil-men wouldn’t have it. Palast explains that, “Philip Carroll, former CEO of Shell Oil USA, who was deployed immediately [to Baghdad],” had “met the new occupation chief [Paul] Bremer [of Kissinger and Associates], who was, at that moment, in accordance with the neo-con blueprint,” and further, “it should be noted that besides heading Shell Oil, [Carroll had] also been CEO of Fluor Corporation, the biggest contractor in Iraq after Bechtel and Halliburton.” Palast interviewed Philip Carroll, and explained, “The double-CEO laid down the law to Bremer. Carroll told [Palast]:


Neo-con plan be damned, ‘I was very clear that there was to be no privatization of Iraqi oil resources or facilities while I was involved. End of statement’,” and Palast continued, “Bremer understood that in the Great Game, a well-placed pawn, even one who used to play Kissinger’s game, does not overrule a knight of the oil industry. Carroll’s orders stood.”49
The Big Oil plan later entailed a strategy of enhancing OPEC, rather than the neo-con plan of smashing it. In the plan written by Big Oil for the US State Department, it recommended a state-owned oil company, because Iraq would be able to ‘enhance’ its relationship with OPEC. As Palast points out, “Only through the unique power of government monopoly can a nation hold back production to the OPEC quota,” and further, “The latest enhancement doubled OPEC’s benchmark price for crude – which also doubled the price Exxon and its comrades may charge for crude pumped from Texas and Alaska, not just from Saudi Arabia.”50
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here are all the notes so that you can do your research before you start your " Baaah-Baaah" Sheeple ( Sheeple is created by combining the words "sheep" and "people"; a reference to herd mentality. It is often used to denote persons who acquiesce to authority, and thus undermine their own human individuality. The implication of sheeple is that as a collective, people believe whatever they are told, especially if told so by authority figures, without processing it to be sure that it is an accurate representation of the real world around them.) response to the truth.

1 Engdahl, William. “A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order”. Pluto Press: 2004, Page 213.
2 Ibid. Pages 213-214
3 Palast, Greg. “Armed Madhouse”. Penguin Group: 2006, Page 139.
4 Engdahl, William, op cit., Page 214.
5 Palast, Greg, op cit., Page 117.
6 Engdahl, William, op cit., Page 214.
7 Ibid. Page 215
8 Palast, Greg, op cit., Page 139.
9 Ibid. 139
10 Ibid. Page 117
11 Engdahl, William, op cit., Page 216
12 Primakov, Yevgeni. “The Inside Story of Moscow's Quest For a Deal.” Time Magazine: March 4, 1991. The Inside Story of Moscow's Quest For a Deal - TIME
13 Engdahl, William, op cit., Page 217
14 Ibid. Page 216
15 Ibid. Page 218
16 Palast, Greg, op cit., Page 117
17 Ibid. Pages 117-119
18 Tyler, Patrick E. “U.S. Strategy Plan Calls for Insuring No Rivals Develop: A One-Superpower World.” The New York Times: March 8, 1992. http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm
19 PNAC. “Statement of Principles.” Project for the New American Century: June 3, 1997. Statement of Principles 20 PNAC. “Rebuilding America’s Defenses.” Project for the New American Century: September 2000 Publications/Reports
21 Ibid. Page ii
22 Ibid. Page 6.
23 Ibid. Page 8
24 Ibid. Page 9
25 Ibid. Page 14
26 Ibid. Page 17
27 Ibid. Pages 51-52
28 Ibid. Page 75
29 Ibid. Page 51
30 Miklaszewski, Jim and Alex Johnson. “U.S. sought attack on al-Qaida.” MSNBC: May 16, 2002. U.S. planned for attack on al-Qaida - Security - MSNBC.com
31 Arney, George. “US 'planned attack on Taleban'.” BBC: September 18, 2001 BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | US 'planned attack on Taleban'
32 Ridgeway, James. “The French Connection.” The Village Voice: January 2-8, 2002. village voice > news > Mondo Washington: The French Connection by James Ridgeway<br>Paris interviews and translation by Sandra Bisin
33 Harriman, Ed et al. “Threat of US strikes passed to Taliban weeks before NY attack.” The Guardian: September 22, 2001. Threat of US strikes passed to Taliban weeks before NY attack | The Guardian | Guardian Unlimited
34 BBC. “Taleban in Texas for talks on gas pipeline.” BBC News: December 4, 1997 BBC News | West Asia | Taleban in Texas for talks on gas pipeline
35 Lockwood, Christopher. “Warring nation holds key to oil riches of Central Asia.” London Telegraph: October 11, 1996 Warring nation holds key to oil riches of Central Asia
36 Chossudovsky, Michel. “America’s ‘War on Terrorism’.” Global Research: 2005, Page 80
37 Ibid. Pages 84-85
38 Ibid. Pages 86-87
39 Ibid. Page 88
40 Ahmed, Nafeez Mossadeq. “The War on Truth: 9/11, Disinformation, and the Anatomy of Terrorism.” Olive Branch Press: 2005, Page 321
41 Viviano, Frank. “Energy future rides on U.S. war.” San Francisco Chronicle: September 26, 2001 Energy future rides on U.S. war / Conflict centered in world's oil patch
42 Palast, Greg, op cit., Page 65
43 Ibid. Pages 66-67
44 Ibid. Pages 68-69
45 Ibid. Pages 71-72
46 Ibid. Pages 88-90
47 Ibid. Page 83
48 Ibid. Pages 84-85

Much of this comes courtesy of Andrew G. Marshall from

GlobalResearch.ca - Centre for Research on Globalization

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We invaded Iraq, not vice versa.....

Kind of a different situation....we were justified to defend ourselves In WWII....

We weren't defending ourselves invading Iraq....that has been PROVEN.

This is much more like Vietnam than WWII....

Try again Nathan!
germany never invaded us.... it was japan.........

and nothing has been proven about your comments and iraq
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germany never invaded us.... it was japan.........

and nothing has been proven about your comments and iraq
But, Gix, Germany did declare war on us first. And, I think it's safe to say that Heckler's comments regarding the Iraqi "threat" are spot on....I mean...we were in Baghdad in little over three weeks with a hundred casualties and no aircraft and ships lost....I don't think that quite quantifies as a threat....ya think???
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germany never invaded us.... it was japan.........

and nothing has been proven about your comments and iraq
It wasnt an invasion it was a raid on naval base on a island acquired through war in its own right.

Show us the big battle plan for the Iraqi invasion of the US.
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wow, nathan! you make iraq seems like an AWESOME place!

i don't think it is, though. instead, i think you cherry picked out a bunch of facts that would support the message you were trying to send, and posted them all in a row.

c'mon, let's get real.
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Heckler and Storman and none you were all of you spot on . No I am not happy for bad news just realistic that all that building is because we blew it up. and still----the infrastructue in Iraq in shambles. This opening post was a fraud.


UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs
31 May 2007

IRAQ: Explosions destroying people and infrastructure
BAGHDAD, 31 May 2007 (IRIN) - Since the US-led occupation of Iraq began in 2003, hundreds of explosions have rocked the country, killing thousands of civilians and causing serious damage to vital infrastructure.


In addition to the deaths and injuries , millions of civilians are suffering as a result of the havoc wreaked on the country’s infrastructure by such explosions, which have made it extremely difficult for the government to provide crucial public services.
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