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View Poll Results: Do You Want Iraq To Have Peace And Democracy?
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11-09-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
READ CAREFULLY!!!!!!!!! It really doesn't matter what I want, what you want, or what anyone else wants, except for the Iraqi's. What do they want? Do you really know Smitty. I don't believe that you are sooooo dense that you didn't understand the point I made. No one truly knows what the IRAQI's want, because they are scattered to the wind. And, BTW, you backslide. You show graphs to prove your point, and when it pointed out that they are not accurate (not even close), you blinked.
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This thread’s poll question is a simple one. Although you say that what you want doesn’t matter, I’ll bet you have an opinion on it. Don’t let the question intimidate you. The question says nothing about U.S. involvement or the prosecution of the Iraq war and doesn’t specify how plausible you think it is for it to happen. It’s a simple question and in my mind a simple answer. The world would be a better place with peace and democracy in Iraq.
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11-09-2007, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief
This thread’s poll question is a simple one. Although you say that what you want doesn’t matter, I’ll bet you have an opinion on it. Don’t let the question intimidate you. The question says nothing about U.S. involvement or the prosecution of the Iraq war and doesn’t specify how plausible you think it is for it to happen. It’s a simple question and in my mind a simple answer. The world would be a better place with peace and democracy in Iraq.
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So, as far as you are concerned, peace and democracy in Iraq and a dictatorship in the US would be something you approve of?
Why aren't you calling for peace in the entire world?
Why aren't you calling for the US to stop starting wars?
Why do you think that peace in Iraq is more important than peace in Sudan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Liberia, Somalia, Gaza, Lebanon, and another hundred nations?
Why do you think that democracy in Iraq is more important than democracy in Sudan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Liberia, Somalia, Gaza, Lebanon, and another hundred nations?
Do you restrict the scope of where you want peace and democracy because you see that war and invasion is the way to bring peace, but you don't believe that the US can invade a hundred nations?
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11-09-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief
This thread’s poll question is a simple one. Although you say that what you want doesn’t matter, I’ll bet you have an opinion on it. Don’t let the question intimidate you. The question says nothing about U.S. involvement or the prosecution of the Iraq war and doesn’t specify how plausible you think it is for it to happen. It’s a simple question and in my mind a simple answer. The world would be a better place with peace and democracy in Iraq.
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Your type blow my mind. You say you believe in democracy, sovereinty, but you really think that we, the people of the US, should have a choice in the matter. YES, I have an opinion. I already stated it. I want for the Iraqi people to decide their future. Period. It is not our decision.
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11-09-2007, 10:09 PM
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Do I want Iraq to have peace & democracy.
Of Cource.
What a stupid question.
I also would like a billion dollars.
Who's going to give me either one?
& who's supposed to decide the said peace & Democracy in Iraq.
Oh & what fucking form of democracy is there going to be there Smitty?
How will it be created as a Republic, like here?
As a one vote ratio like India?
How will the different groups be represented?
What about the Judiciary?
Can you explain what these things are currently in Iraq how they work & how effective they are so far?
Is it going to be solved by the magic fairy marines?
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11-09-2007, 11:00 PM
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no smitty will decide who does what. he knows everything because hes a marine. he even knows who should live or die.
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11-10-2007, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mulp
So, as far as you are concerned, peace and democracy in Iraq and a dictatorship in the US would be something you approve of?
Why aren't you calling for peace in the entire world?
Why aren't you calling for the US to stop starting wars?
Why do you think that peace in Iraq is more important than peace in Sudan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Liberia, Somalia, Gaza, Lebanon, and another hundred nations?
Why do you think that democracy in Iraq is more important than democracy in Sudan, Afghanistan, Haiti, Liberia, Somalia, Gaza, Lebanon, and another hundred nations?
Do you restrict the scope of where you want peace and democracy because you see that war and invasion is the way to bring peace, but you don't believe that the US can invade a hundred nations?
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Wow! You read a lot into the question and my response that are just not there. Who says I'm not calling for peace everywhere and everything else you believe I'm not doing? Why do you believe that just because I would like to see peace in Iraq that I have restricted my scope to that area? Where did I ever state that war and invasion is the way to bring peace? Calm down, take a breath, and don't let this simple question imply to you that answering yes means supporting the Iraq war.
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11-10-2007, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
Your type blow my mind. You say you believe in democracy, sovereinty, but you really think that we, the people of the US, should have a choice in the matter. YES, I have an opinion. I already stated it. I want for the Iraqi people to decide their future. Period. It is not our decision.
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Hmmm, my type? You've pigeon holed me pretty quickly. You must be very gifted or very intolerant.
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11-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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Hmmm, my type? You've pigeon holed me pretty quickly. You must be very gifted or very intolerant.
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It is not a pigeon hole. You assume that what anyone wants besides what the Iraqi's want matters. It doesn't. It is their country. While I may care about the good standing of our country worldwide, they really don't have a say in our country, as it should be.
The question that Smitty asked is not a simple one, as you and he imply. While you and I may see democracy as the end all to all governments, you have to admit that is rather biased, and is not without it's pitfalls. Witness the division of our nation at this moment in time.
Smitty stated they he knew exactly what the people of Iraq want, and that simply is not true.
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11-13-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
It doesn't discredit my arguement. Just exactly how do you think the millions of Iraqi's in refugee camps would have answered the poll that the Dems used. I can see it now (sarcasm on) "Why yes, my life is lovely, I feel secure being a stranger in some elses country where I am not wanted. I just adore the fact the I no longer have a home/job/family to go to. This makes me feel overjoyed and very secure" (sarcasm off).
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The poll was about how many Iraqis want democracy. Where does this come in to play? They know that through democracy comes prosperity! Through the enemy comes oppression. Now are you actually going to argue from my last post or are you going to continue to change the subject?
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Originally Posted by freedomlover
The very fact that dems are using this particular poll from people that are in country, proves my point better Smitty. If these numbers are the result of people who are living this day to day, and this is how they feel, I can imagine how much worse it would be IF the refugees were included in this poll. Thanks for the numbers. You have been very helpful.
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So your saying that the refugees dont want democracy eather? Ive allready caught you trying to say that the poll was inaccurate because the kurds werent invalved and we both know that the kurds would have made the numbers higher than what they are. However your now throwing another inaccurate accusation that you refuse to prove out there? When does this madness stop? How would polling refugees that were driven out by the enemy going to make your point any more valid?
LOL. What we have here is a desperate attempt to save your failing arguement!
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11-13-2007, 09:58 AM
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Wow
I am actually starting to think he is retarded. At best learning disabled.
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Are you going to argue the facts here or just invalve your self in more namecalling?
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