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Old 11-08-2007, 03:35 PM
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I think that your wrong Nathan. I have been on this board long enough to know that isn't true. Not everyone of the right is guilty, but so many of the right use words like traitor, coward, un-American, THE ENEMY. This does not lead people to believe that the right "understand the right to protest exists".
I may think all of those things but I still acknowledge that you have a right to protest. In the words of some politician of yore "I disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death your right to say it".

There are always some who will not accept that belief, and they exist on both sides. the antiwar protesters attacking the ROTC on college campus is the blood brother of the klansman attacking a voting rights rally
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I may think all of those things but I still acknowledge that you have a right to protest. In the words of some politician of yore "I disagree with what you say but I will fight to the death your right to say it".

There are always some who will not accept that belief, and they exist on both sides. the antiwar protesters attacking the ROTC on college campus is the blood brother of the klansman attacking a voting rights rally

I actually agree with you Nathan. I take deep offense to being called a traitor, or coward. I also take deep offense when the left calls our troops baby killers or robots.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:00 PM
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I actually agree with you Nathan. I take deep offense to being called a traitor, or coward. I also take deep offense when the left calls our troops baby killers or robots.
As I said before, people on the left who are frustrated with this war and the current state of affairs need to focus their frustration on the decision and policy makers.....not the troops. That is badly misplaced anger. The US military is simply a tool of US foreign policy...they do not make the decisions or set policy (and the vast majority of them are doing the job the best they can...so, they can come home to their families).
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Most Americans just want to have a goverment that they can be proud of and to be able to live and support their families. But they also don't understand that they are loosing freedoms daily.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:55 PM
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Only when one disagrees with the administrations war policies is one a traitor?
Or if one disagrees with any of the policies of the administration one is a traitor?
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Hi Okhan,

It was BOUND to happen, sooner or later. I have been on this site for 1 1/2 years and this is the first post that:

A) I agree with you.
B) I Didn't end my post with a "FUCK YOU."

With the exception of a few, on both sides of the isle, I really believe that most people here are on the same page. The rights of the American people have been chipped away for decades, and there is NO stop in sight.

It is like a ant eating a elephant. The elephant knows something is happening but doesn't worry about the first bite, or second, or third. Eventually there is no elephant, or Freedon, left.

I probably wont live long enough to see the end of our freedoms, and you may not either. However I DO feel it is the responsibility of those Americans here NOW to try to reverse the trend.

I live in a very upscale community. There are cameras on almost every traffic light in the city, or 60,000. They were put there for "traffic control." How much traffic do you think 60,000 people could create if they ALL drove around in circles? Not much.

The police here now can also tell, when you get pulled over, if you have a CCW permit BEFORE they approach your car. CCW's are tied in to the BMV computer.

Do you know of any older people, 70's, or 80's that say they they wish they were born today? I don't, and have been making it a point to ask them about how free they were 50, 60, 70 years ago.

I honestly don't know what the solution is, but like the AA people say "recognizing the problem is the first step."


Dizzy


p.s. Just for old time sake 'Fuck You!'
I just don't know wtf has happened here. I'm gone for a while and suddenly I'm finding common ground with Dom, and now Diz :O I feel like I've slipped into a parallel universe or something. What's next... supporting agruments from gix? *shudders* lol...

Cheers guys, glad to see tempers have settled and calmer heads are prevailing.

Oh and Diz... f*ck you too..
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