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John Murtha's Wrong Statements... with proof:

Murtha says there will be ‘significant troop withdrawal’ by Nov. elections:
Meet The Press - June 11, 2006 transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: You expect a significant American troop withdrawal by the midterm elections?

REP. MURTHA: I expect a significant troop withdrawal.

Murtha says our military can’t do anymore, then our military kills Zarqawi:
Meet The Press - June 11, 2006 transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: You did say, however, in ‘05, “Our military has done everything that has been asked of them. The U.S. cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily.” The fact is the capture of—or the killing of Zarqawi was a military accomplishment. So the military could do more.

REP. MURTHA: Well, it was a military accomplishment from outside the country. We, we bombed, we bombed it. The, the information came from the Iraqis to the Iraqis to the U.S., and then we bombed where he was. And it—so it came from the outside.

Murtha says we can redeploy to Okinawa… and it’s a quick launch location
Meet The Press - June 11, 2006 transcript:

MR. RUSSERT: Who?

REP. MURTHA: Kuwait’s one that will take us. Qatar, we already have bases in Qatar. So Bahrain. All those countries are willing to take the United States. Now, Saudi Arabia won’t because they wanted us out of there in the first place. So—and we don’t have to be right there. We can go to Okinawa. We, we don’t have—we can redeploy there almost instantly. So that’s not—that’s, that’s a fallacy. That, that’s just a statement to rial up people to support a failed policy wrapped in illusion.

MR. RUSSERT: But it’d be tough to have a timely response from Okinawa.

REP. MURTHA: Well, it—you know, they—when I say Okinawa, I, I’m saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And—and—when they don’t know we’re coming. There’s no question about it. And, and where those airplanes won’t—came from I can’t tell you, but, but I’ll tell you one thing, it doesn’t take very long for them to get in with cruise missiles or with, with fighter aircraft or, or attack aircraft, it doesn’t take any time at all. So we, we have done—this one particular operation, to say that that couldn’t have done, done—it was done from the outside, for heaven’s sakes.



Murtha said: "...we are unable recruit the necessary volunteers to maintain troop levels in our armed forces."-- John Murtha, Aug. 23, 2006

This is false.

The Marines did not fall short in recruiting, as Murtha's opponent Diana Irey reports in a statement:

"According to Defense Department statistics released 13 days before he [Murtha] made his statement (available online at: DoD Announces Recruiting and Retention Numbers for July), the Marines have met and in fact surpassed their recruiting and retention goals: for the month of July, the Marine Corps' recruiting goal was 2,865, but they actually recruited 3,197 volunteers -- 112 percent of their goal. For the Fiscal Year that began on October 1, 2005, the Marine Corps recruiting goal through the end of July 2006 was 23,968; during that time period, the Marine Corps actually recruited 24,300 -- 101 percent of their goal.



Murtha said: "I don't think there would have been an investigation [of the Haditha Marines] if I hadn't said something."--John Murtha, Aug. 22, 2006

This is false.

Murtha knew full well that an investigation was already underway when he spoke his prejudicial statement, "they killed innocent civilians in cold blood" at his May 17, 2006 press conference.

The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer: May 19, 2006 [transcript]:
This live interview of Murtha aired 2 days after his “…killed innocent civilians in cold blood” press conference about Haditha and the Marines. It shows clearly that Murtha knew an investigation was already underway.



Murtha said his statement about the Marines at Haditha was based on Pentagon sources – later identifying ’them’ as Gen. Michael Hagee.

This is false.

Murtha identified Gen. Michael Hagee as his source during an interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer [LINK], claiming Hagee gave him the information on which he based his charge that Marines killed innocent civilians. A claim Hagee says is false. [LINK] The actual briefing occurred 7 days AFTER Murtha made his 'cold blood' statements to the press.



Murtha said: "The soldiers can't speak for themselves. …" --ABC News, Nov. 21, 2005 [LINK]

This is false. [LINK to BootMurtha.com report below]

Iraq War veteran Craig Minnick can speak for himself -- but Murtha refuses to listen to him – even though Minnick is a resident of Murtha's own hometown – Johnstown, PA:

"I have called time and time again to Congressman Murtha's office and they have refused to listen to me, even though I am one of Rep. Murtha's constituents," said Minnick.

An isolated case? Far from it. Like Minnick, Iraq War veteran (and PA resident) Mark Russak has also been stonewalled by Murtha. Here is part of Russak's e-mail to Vets for the Truth / Boot Murtha:

My name is SGT Mark Russak. My home unit is HHC 1ST/110TH Infantry, Pa. Army National Guard. I was attached to Bravo Company 1st/125th Infantry for "Task Force Panther" on deployment to Iraq (Jan. 05 to Jun. 06) as the Senior Combat Medic.

We lost 7 very brave men in our Company. I returned home from the Al Anbar Province of Iraq on June 19, 2006.

I have written two letters about John Murtha (both published in several newspapers) and sent to his office in Johnstown, Pa. I even visited his office while on R&R Leave in January 06 to ask him to stop the lies about our mission but his Aid said he wasn't in. I never heard one word from him and to my knowledge neither did any one in our Task Force.

I plan on being at the rally in October because the truth must be told about this Traitor...

--Mark Russak



Murtha said: Well there was. [a massacre] There's no question about it. I know, in talking to a number of people, and the information, I've never given you bad information yet…” Wolf Blitzer CNN interview, May 19, 2006 [transcript]:

This is false. Murtha says there’s no question there was a massacre at Haditha. When pressed by Blitzer, Murtha gives the Time Magazine article as his gold standard proof of truth. Time magazine has since quietly admitted the 2 core pieces of evidence upon which they based their report were ERRORS: [LINK to WashingtonTimes] [LINK to Sweetness & Light]

REP. DUNCAN HUNTER, (R) ARMED SERVICES CHAIRMAN: If there were problems in the chain of command, if there was a cover-up, if anything wasn't reported, let the chips fall where they may. But don't presume anything. Those reports aren't finished yet. But the reports and the investigations are being pursued with great integrity.

BLITZER: He was responding in part to you, because you've suggested this week that there in effect was a massacre.

MURTHA: Well there was. [a massacre] There's no question about it. I know, in talking to a number of people, and the information, I've never given you bad information yet. I talked to about it, in the context of the fact that these troops are under such tremendous pressure and that's what happens when they're under tremendous pressure.

When this thing's all over, you're going to see exactly what I've said to be true. That, there was an IED attack, it killed one marine, and then they overreacted and killed a number of civilians without anybody firing at them. That's what you're going to find out.
{snip}
BLITZER: The marines say they're still investigating. They don't know what happened yet. The pentagon says the same thing. How do you know what happened?

MURTHA: Wolf, you read the "Time" magazine articles. There are pictures, there are photos. You don't have to talk to the military about the proof.
But you will see when the investigation is done that this was an overreaction by our troops, and this is the type thing that hurts us so badly.

Weeks earlier, Time magazine printed this correction to their Haditha story:

Mar. 27, 2006...
In the original version of this story, TIME reported that "a day after the incident, a Haditha journalism student videotaped the scene at the local morgue and at the homes where the killings had occurred. The video was obtained by the Hammurabi Human Rights Group, which cooperates with the internationally respected Human Rights Watch, and has been shared with TIME." In fact, Human Rights Watch has no ties or association with the Hammurabi Human Rights Group. TIME regrets the error.
http://time-proxy.yaga.com/time/arch...,10987,1174682, 00.html

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MURTHA'S SOMALIA 1993 STATEMENTS:
(see a pattern???)




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"House aides say other senior Democrats, like Rep. John Murtha, chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee on defense, are privately expressing concerns."
(Rep. John Murtha during the Conflict in Somalia, Washington Times, September 6, 1993)

"Representative Murtha, has urged Clinton to withdraw U.S. forces from Somalia"
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, Associated Press, September 22, 1993)

"They're subdued compared to normal morale of elite forces..."
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, NewsMax, September, 1993)

"Our welcome has been worn out."
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, The Today Show, September, 1993)

"Mr. Murtha joined a small but influential list of Democratic lawmakers who have publicly urged the president to change the mission in Somalia."
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, Washington Times, September 30, 1993)

"After 18 U.S. Rangers were killed in the battle of Mogadishu, Murtha visited U.S. forces in Somalia...Afterwards, Murtha said the US had no choice but to pull out completely."
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, Associated Press, September, 1993)

"Murtha said he did not ‘see any achievable goal or national security interest in this operation."
(Rep. John Murtha on the Conflict in Somalia, Pittsburgh Post Gazette, October 6, 1993)

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MURTHA'S IRAQ 2005-2006 STATEMENTS:

"It was, therefore, anything but a routine moment when the normally publicity-shy Pennsylvanian joined dovish House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) at a Sept. 16 news conference criticizing the administration's handling of the war in Iraq and its aftermath."
(Rep. John Murtha during the War in Iraq, Washington Post, September 27, 2003)

"Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. can not accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily. IT IS TIME TO BRING THEM HOME."
(Rep. John Murtha on the War in Iraq, Congressman John Murtha website, November 17, 2005)

"Our military is suffering. The future of our country is at risk... It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interest of the United States of America..."
(Murtha, from his congressional website, Nov. 17, 2005)

"Well, I say that the fight against Americans began with Abu Ghraib. It began with the invasion of Iraq. That's when terrorism started."
(Murtha, Nov. 17, 2005, News Hour with Jim Lehrer)

"80% of Iraqis are strongly opposed to the presence of coalition troops." and "The continued presence of U.S. troops in Iraq is "uniting the enemy against us."
(Murtha, Nov. 17, 2005. NOTE: Murtha quotes a bogus poll number - only 8 % of Iraqis say that foreign forces are the reason for the country going in the wrong direction.)

"Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. cannot accomplish anything further in Iraq militarily," Murtha, a 37-year Marine veteran, said Thursday."It's time to bring them home."
(Rep. John Murtha on the War in Iraq, News Max, November 19, 2005)

"The American public is way ahead of the members of Congress. The United States and coalition troops have done all they can in Iraq. But it's time for a change in direction."
(Murtha, TAIPEI TIMES, Nov. 21, 2005)

"(The Iraqis) are a proud people, they've been around a lot longer than we have. They've going to win this themselves, they're going to settle this themselves. They have to, there's no alternative."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 21, 2005)

"The public turned against this war before I said it."
(Murtha, USA Today, Nov. 21, 2005)

"We cannot win this militarily. Our tactics themselves keep us from winning."
(Murtha, ABC News, Nov. 21, 2005)

"The soldiers can't speak for themselves. We sent them to war and, by God, we're the ones that have to speak out."
(Murtha, ABCnews, Nov. 21, 2005)

"The military has done everything they can do. So now it's up to the politicians, up to us in Congress. Only we can send people to war and it's up to us to find a way to solve this very difficult problem."
(Murtha, IHT, Nov. 21, 2005)

"I said a year ago we can't win this militarily."
(Murtha, IHT, Nov. 21, 2005)

"All of us want to support the president when he's at war."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 21, 2005)

"I didn't want (the public) to think this was a Democrat position plotted from the left wing"
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 21, 2005)

"Absolutely, we're the target. We're the enemy"
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 21, 2005)

"This is not a war of words, this is a war."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 21, 2005)

"I'm very hopeful that my proposal is something they'll take seriously, that he'll (Bush) get a few of us to the White House and talk to us about this."
(Murtha, ARABWORLDNEWS, Nov. 21, 2005)

"When I talk to the troops, I get a different story (than from those who call for continued military involvement). I get a story that we need to have a plan. And from the families, an outpouring from the families,."
(Murtha, ARABWORLDNEWS, Nov. 22, 2005)

"This war cannot be won militarily, ... cannot be won on the ground."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Nov. 22, 2005)

"When I talk to the troops, I get a different story [than from those who call for continued military involvement]. I get a story that we need to have a plan. And from the families, an outpouring from the families."
(Murtha, TAIPEI TIMES, Nov. 23, 2005)

"You can't spin this. You've got to have a real solution."
(Murtha, ABC News, Nov. 23, 2005)

"All of Iraq must know Iraq is free -- free from United State's occupation."
(Murtha, Nov. 2005, Washington Times)

the Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth," Rep. John Murtha told a civic group
(Murtha, Dec. 1, 2005 AP article)

"I admit I made a mistake when I voted for war"
(Murtha, The Guardian, Dec. 2, 2005)

"I predict he'll [Bush] make it look like we're staying the course"
(Murtha, The Guardian, Dec. 2, 2005)

"When you fight an insurgency, you have to win the hearts and minds of the (Iraqi) people, and we've lost the hearts and minds of the people."
(Murtha, Dec 6, 2005)

"The Iraqis don't want us there."
(Murtha news conference, transcript, Washington Post, Dec. 7, 2005)

"I've seen damn little things that they have said [Joint Chiefs/Pentagon] was true turned out to be true."
(Murtha, RSS, Dec. 8, 2005)

"There's no question they're going to withdraw [US troops]. I predict that a big proportion of the troops will be out by next year."
(Murtha, Dec. 11, 2005)

"Since we've become enemies, since most of the people over there want us to be out of there, I advocate that we withdraw, we redeploy to the surrounding area,"
(Murtha, Dec. 12, 2005)

"It's not going to get better with us over there."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Dec. 12, 2005)

"So I've finally come to the conclusion that we've become the enemy, and that there's no alternative."
(Murtha, Dec. 12, 2005)

"We've got nation building by the U.S. military, and that's not a mission for the U.S. military."
(Murtha, RSS, Dec. 14, 2005)

"Torture scars not only its subject, it scars those who perpetrate it and those who are witnesses to it."
(Murtha, TIMES OF INDIA, Dec. 15, 2005)

"There can be no waiver to the use for torture. No torture and no exceptions,."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Dec. 15, 2005)

"...They're [Bush Administration] giving people the impression, in Iraq we're fighting terrorism."
(Murtha, Dec. 22, 2005, Pittsburgh Tribune Review)

Asked during an interview broadcast Monday night if he would "join the military today," the decorated Vietnam combat veteran told "ABC's Nightline" - "No."
(Murtha, Jan. 2, 2006)

"We've become the enemy."
(Murtha, Jan. 5, 2006 during Arlington Forum)

"Peter Pace told me this last night: They know militarily they can't win this."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Jan 6, 2006)

"They're [US troops] frustrated by this mission."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Jan 6, 2006)

"I didn't have concerns like these when I enlisted in the Marines during the Korean War or volunteered to go to Vietnam."
(Murtha, The Guardian, Jan. 6, 2006)

"The military had no problem recruiting directly after 9/11 because everyone understood that we had been attacked. But now the military's ability to attract recruits is being hampered by the prospect of prolonged, extended and repeated deployments; inadequate equipment; shortened home stays; the lack of any connection between Iraq and the brutal attacks of 9/11; and — most importantly — the administration's constantly changing, undefined, open-ended military mission in Iraq."
(Murtha, CBS News, Jan 6, 2006)

"There is no reason in the world we couldn't do what we're doing (in Iraq) from the periphery."
(Murtha, ARAB WORLD NEWS, Jan 27, 2006)

"Our troops are the target."
(Murtha, ARAB WORLD NEWS, Jan 27, 2006)

"We can't win it militarily. That's the key,"
(Murtha, Jan. 27, 2006, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review)

"We're not fighting terrorism in Iraq. We're fighting a civil war in Iraq."
(Murtha, Jan. 27, 2006, Pittsburgh Tribune Review)

"We have to say to the Iraqis, 'This is your war. This is no longer our war. You've got an elected government. This is up to you now to settle this thing."
(Murtha, March 19, 2006)

"Eighty percent of the Iraqis want us out of there, and 47 percent say it's OK to kill Americans," Murtha said. "Something like this happens, they knew about it. The Iraqis knew about it. The Americans pay them, and then it goes up the chain of command and somebody stifles it."
(Murtha, RSS, May 31, 2006)

He's [Karl Rove] making a political speech. He's sitting in his air-conditioned office with his big, fat backside, saying, 'Stay the course.' That's not a plan, "
(Murtha, NBC's "Meet the Press." , June 6, 2006)

''We can go to Okinawa. . . . We can redeploy there almost instantly.''
(Murtha, June 11, 2006, Meet The Press)

"We can't win this."
(Rep. John Murtha, Congressional Record, June 15, 2006, p. H4028)

"We are causing the problem."
Rep.John Murtha, Congressional Record, June 15, 2006, p. H4028)

Rep. Murtha Claims Americans Are Driving Iraqis Out Of The Country, Just Like Saddam Hussein:
"Almost 900,000 people left when Saddam Hussein was there... The time we have been there, 900,000 people have left the county."
(Rep. John Murtha, Congressional Record, June 15, 2006, p. H4027)

"If we prevail as I hope and know we will, and return to the majority this next Congress, I have decided to run for the open seat of the majority leader."
(Murtha said in a letter to his Democratic colleagues, June 2006)

"American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran."
(Murtha, June 24, 2006 South Florida Sun-Sentinel)

“An untimely exit (from Iraq) could rapidly devolve into a civil war, which would leave America’s foreign policy in disarray as countries question not only America’s judgment but its perseverance.”
(From Rep. John Murtha's 2004 book "From Vietnam to 9/11"...
where Murtha advocates that the U.S. should not pull-out or Iraq prematurely or create a timetable)

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REGARDING HADITHA and the U.S. MARINES:

"It [Haditha, Marines] is as bad as Abu Ghraib, if not worse."
(Murtha, May 2006)

"They [the Marines/Military] knew the day after this happened that it was not as they portrayed it. They knew that they (marines) went into the rooms, they killed the people in the taxi. There was no firing at all. And this comes from the highest authority in the Marine Corps, so there's no question in my mind,"
(Murtha, May 2006)

"... they [Marine] killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
(Murtha, May 17, 2006 at news conference)

"There was no firefight. There was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood"
(Murtha, May 19, 2006)

"They actually went into the houses and killed women and children. And there was about twice as many as originally reported by Times."
(Murtha, Reuters, May 19, 2006)

"Our troops over-reacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood."
(Murtha, ARAB WORLD NEWS, May 19, 2006)

"It's [Haditha, Marines] much worse than reported in Time magazine."
(Murtha, News.comAU, May 18, 2006)

BLITZER: The marines say they're still investigating. They don't know what happened yet. The pentagon says the same thing. How do you know what happened?

MURTHA: Wolf, you read the "Time" magazine articles. There are pictures, there are photos. You don't have to talk to the military about the proof.
(Murtha, on CNN/Wolf Blitzer, May 19, 2006... transcript)

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Bunch of Horseshit. Talk about Slandering soldiers.

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Everything you just said is total bullshit

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Smitty and he is a Senior Rep. and should be committed for at least a month and have turn in his old uniforms. He needs to remember that he retired from the Marines and now they don't want him.

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Go Sooners

Shoot the messenger when you don't like the message Smitty?

That's bullshit.

The Iraq war was and is a huge debacle, we need to cut our losses at all levels and just get the fuck out!!!

We aren't "winning" it is a no win situation for us because what we consider "winning" (establishment of a Western style Democracy) is
not going to happen in the near or foreseeable future....

There needs to be a sea change in culture first, and that takes time.

It is a constitutional guarentee to be innocent untill proven guilty! Murtha not only jumped the gun but he was dead wrong! Though he refuses to apologise he will be sued over this. And I cant wait untill it happens!

No win? You havent seen the insurgent activity in the past 3 months have you? We are winning. Not even your liberal congressmen can disput that!

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This is jsut a smear campaign. Waste of time.

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If there is no truth here then prove it! Good Luck!

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