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Old 10-16-2007, 12:13 PM
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It is a constitutional guarentee to be innocent untill proven guilty! Murtha not only jumped the gun but he was dead wrong! Though he refuses to apologise he will be sued over this. And I cant wait untill it happens!



No win? You havent seen the insurgent activity in the past 3 months have you? We are winning. Not even your liberal congressmen can disput that!
The Marines that are suing....under what grounds they are actually suing....
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
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The Marines that are suing....under what grounds they are actually suing....
Gateway Pundit: Marines Will Sue John Murtha for Defamation of Character

Lawyers for Marine Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich are filing a suit in Federal Court today.

Via Michelle Malkin this morning and the Washington Post:


A Marine Corps staff sergeant who led the squad accused of killing two dozen civilians in Haditha, Iraq, will file a lawsuit today in federal court in Washington claiming that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) defamed him when the congressman made public comments about the incident earlier this year.

Attorneys for Frank D. Wuterich, 26, argue in court papers that Murtha tarnished the Marine's reputation by telling news organizations in May that the Marine unit cracked after a roadside bomb killed one of its members and that the troops "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha also said repeatedly that the incident was covered up.

In the court filing, obtained by The Washington Post, the lawyers say that Murtha made the comments after being briefed by Defense Department officials who "deliberately provided him with inaccurate and false information." Neal A. Puckett and Mark S. Zaid, suing for libel and invasion of privacy, also wrote that Murtha made the comments outside of his official scope as a congressman.

Telephone calls yesterday to Murtha's office in Washington were referred to his district office in Pennsylvania, and calls there were not returned. A Marine Corps spokesman declined to comment yesterday on the Haditha investigation or the lawsuit.

CNN.com - Accused Marine*suing Murtha - Aug 2, 2006
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Marine to sue Murtha over irresponsible Haditha accusations
Marine To Sue John Murtha over Haditha : Ian Schwartz

LOL. MSNBC Didnt report this story!
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Gateway Pundit: Marines Will Sue John Murtha for Defamation of Character

Lawyers for Marine Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich are filing a suit in Federal Court today.

Via Michelle Malkin this morning and the Washington Post:


A Marine Corps staff sergeant who led the squad accused of killing two dozen civilians in Haditha, Iraq, will file a lawsuit today in federal court in Washington claiming that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) defamed him when the congressman made public comments about the incident earlier this year.

Attorneys for Frank D. Wuterich, 26, argue in court papers that Murtha tarnished the Marine's reputation by telling news organizations in May that the Marine unit cracked after a roadside bomb killed one of its members and that the troops "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha also said repeatedly that the incident was covered up.

In the court filing, obtained by The Washington Post, the lawyers say that Murtha made the comments after being briefed by Defense Department officials who "deliberately provided him with inaccurate and false information." Neal A. Puckett and Mark S. Zaid, suing for libel and invasion of privacy, also wrote that Murtha made the comments outside of his official scope as a congressman.

Telephone calls yesterday to Murtha's office in Washington were referred to his district office in Pennsylvania, and calls there were not returned. A Marine Corps spokesman declined to comment yesterday on the Haditha investigation or the lawsuit.

CNN.com - Accused Marine*suing Murtha - Aug 2, 2006
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Marine to sue Murtha over irresponsible Haditha accusations
Marine To Sue John Murtha over Haditha : Ian Schwartz

LOL. MSNBC Didnt report this story!
Hmmm....it sounds like possibly the individual(s) who supplied Murtha "with inaccurate and false information" would be the liable ones here....if, indeed, someone is liable...and it's not clear to me that anyone is.
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Hmmm....it sounds like possibly the individual(s) who supplied Murtha "with inaccurate and false information" would be the liable ones here....if, indeed, someone is liable...and it's not clear to me that anyone is.
This gives him no excuse to call them guilty before the trial even starts! I dont care what information he is given! Innocent untill proven guilty is a constitutional right!
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:45 PM
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This gives him no excuse to call them guilty before the trial even starts! I dont care what information he is given! Innocent untill proven guilty is a constitutional right!
Right Smitty....but, the problem is that Murtha is not the judge or the jurry here, Smitty...and he can voice his opinions like everyone else. I agree that what he did was wrong, but that doesn't necessarily make him liable or guilty of slander. If it was reasonable for him to believe what he was saying at the time he was saying it, then there are no grounds for a law suit....at least against him.
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Right Smitty....but, the problem is that Murtha is not the judge or the jurry here, Smitty...and he can voice his opinions like everyone else. I agree that what he did was w</trong, but that doesn't necessarily make him liable or guilty of slander. If it was reasonable for him to believe what he was saying at the time he was saying it, then there are no grounds for a law suit....at least against him.
He is a senater. HE KNOWS BETTER! He slandered these troops for political reasons! The troops couldent tell their side of the story and neither could their parents! They were ordered by the courts to keep silent all while Murtha saw an political oppertunity to make America look bad in Iraq! Murtha told the world that thoes troops murdered those innocent Iraqis in cold blood all before the trial even started! Ofcourse now thay are all exonerated and rightfully looking for some payback! Murtha deserves everything that is coming to him. We do have the freedom of speech but we still dont falsley yell "fire" in an crowded theater!
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He is a senater. HE KNOWS BETTER! He slandered these troops for political reasons! The troops couldent tell their side of the story and neither could their parents! They were ordered by the courts to keep silent all while Murtha saw an political oppertunity to make America look bad in Iraq! Murtha told the world that thoes troops murdered those innocent Iraqis in cold blood all before the trial even started! Ofcourse now thay are all exonerated and rightfully looking for some payback! Murtha deserves everything that is coming to him. We do have the freedom of speech but we still dont falsley yell "fire" in an crowded theater!
Well, if they can prove what you are saying, then they may have something. My guess is that it will be hard to prove. Mutha will probably just say that he was saying what he thought was true at the time. Unless they can find eyewitnesses to collaborate your take on this Smitty, the law suits will probably go no where.
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Well, if they can prove what you are saying, then they may have something. My guess is that it will be hard to prove. Mutha will probably just say that he was saying what he thought was true at the time. Unless they can find eyewitnesses to collaborate your take on this Smitty, the law suits will probably go no where.
The funny thing is that one of the marines is from his district! He is contiplating running againsts Murtha! I heard the interview on the Sean Hannity Show! Murtha doesent stand a chance in court againsts these guys! He's done!
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The funny thing is that one of the marines is from his district! He is contiplating running againsts Murtha! I heard the interview on the Sean Hannity Show! Murtha doesent stand a chance in court againsts these guys! He's done!
Interesting about his running for office....But, like I said, Smitty, slander is very difficult to prove....so, I wouldn't get your hopes up....
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Interesting about his running for office....But, like I said, Smitty, slander is very difficult to prove....so, I wouldn't get your hopes up....
Its too bad that Murthas constituants could care less of how many marines he slanders. There is no shame!
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