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09-22-2007, 11:42 AM
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Can he? Does he want to? No one knows to what extent these private armies are being utilized domestically. They are unregulated, congress has no over-sight and they have not done anything illegal here that we know of.
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Meet George W. Bush's privatized military:
Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.
The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, N.C., is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges, the officials told The Associated Press. Blackwater is based in Moyock, N.C.
A spokeswoman for Blackwater did not return calls seeking comment Friday. The U.S. attorney for the eastern district of North Carolina, George Holding, declined to comment, as did Pentagon and State Department spokesmen.
Officials with knowledge of the case said it is active, although at an early stage. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, which has heightened since 11 Iraqis were killed Sunday in a shooting involving Blackwater contractors protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad.
The officials could not say whether the investigation would result in indictments, how many Blackwater employees are involved or if the company itself, which has won hundreds of millions of dollars in government security contracts since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is under scrutiny.
Nice. This is how George W. Bush "supports the troops." He gives huge military contracts to a company that AT BEST isn't providing adequate oversight to its own employees. Like the president, Blackwater's "security" personnel in Baghdad operate without oversight and without accountability.
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09-22-2007, 11:55 AM
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WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE! Where the hell were you Liberals when Blackwater did the same shit in New Orleans, after Katrina? Is it because New Orleans is a Liberal town, and they were protecting the Limo Liberals?
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There were plenty of stories that I saw, what were you reading? The administration and congress were all Republican at the time, there was no reaction from them...that is where the oversight comes from. Diz, this is your own knee-jerk reaction to this particular thread; there were even threads a long time ago about this.
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09-22-2007, 11:02 PM
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Meet George W. Bush's privatized military:
Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.
The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, N.C., is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges, the officials told The Associated Press. Blackwater is based in Moyock, N.C.
A spokeswoman for Blackwater did not return calls seeking comment Friday. The U.S. attorney for the eastern district of North Carolina, George Holding, declined to comment, as did Pentagon and State Department spokesmen.
Officials with knowledge of the case said it is active, although at an early stage. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, which has heightened since 11 Iraqis were killed Sunday in a shooting involving Blackwater contractors protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad.
The officials could not say whether the investigation would result in indictments, how many Blackwater employees are involved or if the company itself, which has won hundreds of millions of dollars in government security contracts since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is under scrutiny.
Nice. This is how George W. Bush "supports the troops." He gives huge military contracts to a company that AT BEST isn't providing adequate oversight to its own employees. Like the president, Blackwater's "security" personnel in Baghdad operate without oversight and without accountability.
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You are absolutely correct. What get's me, is the Republicans sell themselves as the "responsible" party, but ask for no accountability of this administration, and never hold Bush responsible for the mistakes and outright incompetence he has shown.
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09-23-2007, 03:56 AM
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Iraq: Blackwater guards fired unprovoked - Yahoo! News
Cmmon white trash as bad as any urban black gangster they are so scared of.
These fuckers are scum.
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09-23-2007, 04:13 AM
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09-23-2007, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Robinson
Meet George W. Bush's privatized military:
Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.
The U.S. Attorney's Office in Raleigh, N.C., is handling the investigation with help from Pentagon and State Department auditors, who have concluded there is enough evidence to file charges, the officials told The Associated Press. Blackwater is based in Moyock, N.C.
A spokeswoman for Blackwater did not return calls seeking comment Friday. The U.S. attorney for the eastern district of North Carolina, George Holding, declined to comment, as did Pentagon and State Department spokesmen.
Officials with knowledge of the case said it is active, although at an early stage. They spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter, which has heightened since 11 Iraqis were killed Sunday in a shooting involving Blackwater contractors protecting a U.S. diplomatic convoy in Baghdad.
The officials could not say whether the investigation would result in indictments, how many Blackwater employees are involved or if the company itself, which has won hundreds of millions of dollars in government security contracts since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is under scrutiny.
Nice. This is how George W. Bush "supports the troops." He gives huge military contracts to a company that AT BEST isn't providing adequate oversight to its own employees. Like the president, Blackwater's "security" personnel in Baghdad operate without oversight and without accountability.
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Great post. Too bad you are full of shit! "George W. Bush's privatized military?"
Blackwater was started in 1997 and hired by BILL CLINTONS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
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09-23-2007, 09:48 AM
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Great post. Too bad you are full of shit! "George W. Bush's privatized military?"
Blackwater was started in 1997 and hired by BILL CLINTONS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
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And this administration have given millions in contracts to these mercenaries, with absolutely NO oversight. That is absolutely stupid. That would be like me hiring a contractor to build me a house and not setting the perimeters or floor plan, materials used, ect.
Americans money spent well. We might as well throw the money out the window. But what would you expect for an administration that expects no oversight for itself.
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09-23-2007, 02:41 PM
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Blackwater was started in 1997 and hired by BILL CLINTONS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
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Too bad that again you have deleted a great deal of information here so to try and discredit an opposing poster.
Blackwater was founded a year before (1996) and the mission statement was primarily to train law enforcement and certain military people. And yes, the Def Department will use any number of companies to do this task for certain functions, especially when they have much more updated equipment to train people with.
After the no bid contracts came from the post 9/11 Bush administration then Blackwater went head first into being much more of a para-military force for hireand hired a LOT of personnel to go over to the Middle East. This is far different then just training people at thier North Carolina facility.
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09-23-2007, 02:57 PM
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They were and have been rent-a-cops. They are well out of there element in IRaq. I lived in Myock I know some of the instructors I came in contact with employees of a Blackwater. They are three toothed ingorant fucking clowns. They had no business over there. Provate renmt-a-cop. Security for base instalations and other goverment assests is nothing new and Bill Clinton didnt hire anybody. The lame ass blame the stupid Arksans redneck is old and tired and carrys no weight. Private security contracts are NOT handled by a president. The Bush admin opened the door for these retards to fight a war instead of guard a parking lot like they should be doing.
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09-23-2007, 08:13 PM
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Too bad that again you have deleted a great deal of information here so to try and discredit an opposing poster.
Blackwater was founded a year before (1996) and the mission statement was primarily to train law enforcement and certain military people. And yes, the Def Department will use any number of companies to do this task for certain functions, especially when they have much more updated equipment to train people with.
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That is what I wrote. Blackwater was hired during the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. GWB just expanded it.
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