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09-22-2007, 06:28 AM
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Deeper reality check. We do it because those who profit from it in MEGA dollars have suppressed the technology free market process that would allow 'other' forms of these technologies to flourish...
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...or they've convinced us that oil is finite and therefore worth more. 
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09-22-2007, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by countryslim
Reality Check.... I guess none of you drive Cars or mow the grass, nor buy disposible plastic Shampoo bottles, nor bag your Groceries that are Trucked or Shipped by Train, nor do you Heat your homes in the winter....
Don't be Hypocritical, We ALL Depend on OIL...
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Nobody is being hypocritical here. We are merely discussing how nature has given us energy to run cars , power and heat homes and so on.......Were just frustrated that that technology is not readily available for the population because the oil industry has a stronghold on making billions from us prisoners using their oil.
solar power cars - Google Search
solar powered homes - Google Search
wind energy - Google Search
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09-22-2007, 10:37 AM
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So the war was largely about oil? SO?
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09-22-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SydneySteel
So the war was largely about oil? SO?
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Bush lied. People died. The upper elite cronies are making a shit load of money off this. Would you want to go get your leg blown off because of war profiteering? Would you want innocent children to die because somebody in Washington wanted to get richer? How do feel about Exxon and GM making outrageous profits because we're so dependent on oil? We were mislead and lied to go into an illegal and immoral "war"...to wipe out a whole country so we could steal their oil.
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09-22-2007, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
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Right it's about saving the poor innocent suffering Iraqis, sadly 500,000 plus were saved permanently & soon the poor suffering innocent Iranians...
Now it's about & ALWAYS HAS BEEN about control of the spigot. It always has been.
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A poster says so? Maybe he is right because you know all those 500,000 plus do not make much sound over here in the US when they fall, espcially the children.
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09-22-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by franchesca
Bush lied. People died. The upper elite cronies are making a shit load of money off this. Would you want to go get your leg blown off because of war profiteering? Would you want innocent children to die because somebody in Washington wanted to get richer? How do feel about Exxon and GM making outrageous profits because we're so dependent on oil? We were mislead and lied to go into an illegal and immoral "war"...to wipe out a whole country so we could steal their oil.
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In answer to all of your foolish questions, NO. My point was and will always be that whether it was or wasn't about oil is immaterial. We have NO control over our government and never have. Bush lied? Name me ONE politian who does not. And the final point is that the war was not necessary if all our government wanted was the oil. Our military would have just taken over the oil fields, defended them and taken the oil. No war necessary. The government has always done as it pleases and always will because the American people are terrified of their own government. Remember, they can disappear you.
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09-22-2007, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SydneySteel
In answer to all of your foolish questions, NO. My point was and will always be that whether it was or wasn't about oil is immaterial. We have NO control over our government and never have. Bush lied? Name me ONE politian who does not. And the final point is that the war was not necessary if all our government wanted was the oil. Our military would have just taken over the oil fields, defended them and taken the oil. No war necessary. The government has always done as it pleases and always will because the American people are terrified of their own government. Remember, they can disappear you.
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The so called war was necessary because Halliburton and all the other companies needed to make money. The top gets their cut and the sheeple really think it's a "war" because we're blowing people up. I know they can disappear me at any time. When have I said they couldn't? And of course all politicians lie. It's what they are best at. It is, however, unfair that Clinton got raked over the coals for a blow job while Bush gets to make himself emporer of the country.
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09-22-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by franchesca
The so called war was necessary because Halliburton and all the other companies needed to make money. The top gets their cut and the sheeple really think it's a "war" because we're blowing people up. I know they can disappear me at any time. When have I said they couldn't? And of course all politicians lie. It's what they are best at. It is, however, unfair that Clinton got raked over the coals for a blow job while Bush gets to make himself emporer of the country.
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You really have no idea do you? Halliburton and oil and war profiteering? Two questions......
If the war was about oil, why isn't gas back under $2 a gal?
Do you even know anything about Halliburton? They are one of a handful of corporations in the world that have the capabilities of doing what is needed in Iraq and other places. If you think they are wasting money, give the contract to a company that can not handle it and you will see wasting money.
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09-22-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by franchesca
It is, however, unfair that Clinton got raked over the coals for a blow job while Bush gets to make himself emporer of the country.
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As most people who are not ignorant have learned, life isn't fair. Learn to live with it.
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09-22-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by clholloway20
If the war was about oil, why isn't gas back under $2 a gal?
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As most people who are not ignorant have learned, life isn't fair. Learn to live with it.
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You answered your own question.
The war, in my opinion (be that as it may), isn't about the pricing of oil, but the insurance of oil for the future. Why drop the prices when the demand continues steady no matter how high the price is. Simple economics: raise the price as high as it's possible to maintain the highest (or close to) demand.
Px+Dx=Mp
P=Price
D=Demand
Mp= Maximum Profit
Plus all the restrictions and guidelines each seperate state puts on the oil, makes it impossible for universal oil codes, and spikes the price up greater.
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