Yeah, MSNBC is such a far right voice. I'll remember how MSNBC is so biased whenever either of you guys try to use it as a source.

You just refuse to accept the article because you don't want to accept it. Even your party leaders are saying Iran is a threat - I guess they are lying also, right?

Perhaps you are not familar with the Israeli Mossad (Secret Police) forming terrorist groups to try and form public opinion.

The Israeli's will do anything to maintain the US War Machine in the Mid-East and provoke attacks on their enemies.

As George O Well states, stop accepting everything at face value.

Example:
Middle East Online

No one questioned MSNBC. You are creating an argument that wasn't made.

The article says nothing.

Perhaps you should re-write it to say what you want it to say.

It said that the guy was taken in custody for smuggling bombs and that he had trained fighters in Iraq.

If a person honestly doesn't think that Iran is helping out the insurgents then they are ignorant.

Is this really the first time you have seen something about Iran helping the insurgents?

This is the same character that said...."there were no US citizens killed in the 9/11 attacks...and the twin towers were old and dilapidated pieces of shit that did not amount to any actual loss"......consider just whom you are conversing with. BD

I missed in the first sentence, where they said he was "arrested". Later they said, "detained", which I assumed to mean as it typically does in the USA, "detained and released".

If Bush had not lied to us EVERY step of the way in this war and was not under the complete control of Israel, I would believe it. I believed most everything Nixon, Ford, and Bush1 said. I have no confidence in anything Bush2 or his flunkies say.

No, but about 2 weeks ago CJCS General Pace blew the concern off as not a big worry. I believe it was also Pace that pointed out all the Foreign Fighters are Saudis.

We should have attacked the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia if we wanted to stop terrorists. They are funding it and supplying the people.

WE HAVE ATTACKED THE WRONG COUNTRY.

Yea yea yea this is going to go on back and forth as long as we are there next door building bases. Makes sense I think that all the bordering countries would be there because it istheir border and backyard. You see people like Bush and dom do not understand Iran, Syria, and Saudia Arabia psychology is connected by there sect and tribes and not by the border drawn by others.The longer we stay the higher degree of likeihood is there will be an all out conflict and that may be the entire drift we want this to float towards.

Iran accused the United States of supporting Iranian opposition groups that are attacking Iranian forces. Members of one of the groups, the Party for a Free Life in Kurdistan, or PJAK, reside along the mountainous border in northern Iraq. In mid-August, Iranian forces began to launch rockets and artillery shells into Iraqi territory under the pretext of combating the separatist rebels, according to Iraqi officials and villagers. The barrage has driven more than 2,000 people from their homes in the mountains.

"If there are terrorist groups which actually want to enter the Iranian territories, naturally we will confront them and stand against them," Iran said. "We haven't any doubt that every group that wants to attack us has the support of the Americans," he added.

Yea yea yea we bagged them they bag us thats war dude and we wanted it. I think the part that gets me is that Americans are so tingly that Iraqs neighbors would be involved.

All the bordering countries are responding to some degree just much less then our response and involvement in Iraq. I think we might be involved across the border if Iran was in Mexico Ya think?

Yeah, I looked for that data yesterday. It is hard to find stuff several years after the fact. The first count made within a couple days after the WTC attack showed no Americans. It was not counting the hijacked planes. I am sure this is the data Bush was looking at when he decided 1-2 days after the 911, to award citizenship to all.

You mentioned some of the countries of origin (UK, Germany) of around 1,000, but there were about a dozen other countries. I think the Philipines was a big native country. There were a few that were completely unexpected to me.

I am pretty sure detained doesn't mean the same thing as it does here. When people are detained for questioning here it is not the same as being detained for questioning there.

That is the problem, people don't believe this stuff just because of their Bush hatred. Even when the Democratic leaders say Iran is a threat it is ignored because Bush says it also.

It is almost like the agenda or platform of a large part of the Dem. base is "we hate Bush" and nothing more.

There is a difference between Saudi nationals and the Saudi government. But I agree, a large part of the terrorism in the world is coming out of Saudi Arabia. If you want to make a strong case for going to war with Saudi Arabia you will get very little argument from me. Of course, I also realize that both Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia, so what was a war between extremists and the West could turn into something much, much more.

I'm not the one who is denying that Iran is doing this shit, so I guess I understand much more than the people who are denying it, right? Retard. You say I don't understand when I am the one who said they were there - and then you go on to say the same thing.