Let's see, as I recall from living in Indiana, it was no socialist liberal place, with lots of people watching most everything everyone else does.

Yet with all that observation, some like you were still convinced half the people were criminals and passed a voter ID law that assumes the 80 year old nun, who smacked your wrist with her ruler in school so many decades ago, must be some anti-American who must not be allowed to vote, because she's too poor and physically frail to drive. Most likely she can still correct your grammar and point out your factual errors sharp as ever.

And she would certainly point out the logical fallacy of your argument, and here I'm sure she would sharply correct me, by I think it is over generalization.

Isn't your reasoning something like, "machine pols boasted about being able out the dead people to vote long ago, therefore, the only reason my candidate loses is all those dead voters that are clearly fixing the election."

Too bad no one can find any evidence of dead voters - somehow those crooked vote fixers seem to be able to resurrect them from the dead when their votes are challenged and you seek to prove them dead, proving the election was fixed.

The evidence of legal voters being denied their right to vote is much clearer than the evidence of illegal voting. For example the purging of voter roles using the names on lists of people convicted of crimes without determining the person purged was the one convicted, or whether the conviction revokes the right to vote. That this activity was directed by the Secretary of State does mean it wasn't fraudulent denial of votes.

No, but if I see you running down the street carrying a bank bag, waving a gun, and wearing a mask............

Now someone who shows up to vote and the only ID they have is a water bill........ well you figure it out. Hell, even the elderly require a picture ID to cash a SS check, open a bank account, get on an air plane, People even need a birth certificate to apply for social security, social security disability, section 8 housing, aid for dependent children. Why not to vote?

OH, I know, the dimocant's would lose to many phantom voters if they were required to show a picture ID.

If you want proof of dead voters just look at the IL voting rolls for 2006. Bet you'll find plenty that actually died in 2005, or before, but still voted in 06.

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Do you remember that back in '06 Ann Cunter got busted for trying to vote from the wrong address?That is election fraud.
So i do not believe it is the liberals who are doing it.

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Are you the biggest dumbass on the face of the earth or what? NO American needs a poll to tell themselves we are going in the wrong direction. We have been doing so for a while and long before bushes dumb ass got elected. And with the choices we have now it don't look as if we are going to turn it around. Take your reality tv bullshit and your polling wich can reflect what ever outcome you want and shove it up your ass. I don't count on polls they are bullshit, I see what is going on everyday and it's bullshit. I or any other American need not read a poll to figure that out.

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Then you are blind because they are both guilty.

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Welfare reform for one would not have happened if Bush I was president again in 1992...sorry, Clinton got some things done.

You can believe what you want, but the only reason to oppose requiring a picture ID to vote is to make fraud easier, and the only ones opposed to such plans are the "liberals". If it walks like a duck............

Now "if" Ann Coulter was "busted", as you say, it was because someone checked her ID, and noticed the different address.

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I'm not so sure Clintoon was happy with his Welfare reform bill of 1996.

But after running on a platform to chage welfare he HAD to do something.

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Libs don't want ID because it goes against their crap with illegal immigrants.

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