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Old 05-21-2008, 02:35 PM
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Yes I mean exports...Yes this is an economic issue but also very much a national security issue as well.
How is that a threat? Not having every last one of our desires is not a security issue.
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Obviously Iran is the biggest threat by far. China is a serious military threat as well. It won't be long till we confront both, and the Fascist Union <Russia> as well
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Obviously Iran is the biggest threat by far. China is a serious military threat as well. It won't be long till we confront both, and the Fascist Union <Russia> as well
Biggest security threat is the stupidity and greed of the average voter. All great empires fall from within.
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Obviously Iran is the biggest threat by far. China is a serious military threat as well. It won't be long till we confront both, and the Fascist Union <Russia> as well
You're kidding, right? We are israel now, the whole world hates us.
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Yes I mean exports...Yes this is an economic issue but also very much a national security issue as well.
What is Congress doing about it?
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You're kidding, right? We are israel now, the whole world hates us.
That's strange.
The only people that have expressed hatred for Americans are Liberals.

Only about 10% of Americans consider themselves Liberal.

Do you think Liberals make up all of the people in the world?
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Biggest security threat is the stupidity and greed of the average voter. All great empires fall from within.
The isolationist tried doing that to us in the 1930s
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The media. Especially it's affect on the Rich and(or) Stupid.
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What is Congress doing about it?
First off they need to stop giving tax incentives to companies leaving this country. How stupid is this?
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:29 PM
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The biggest threat(s) to our security are as follows;

1)Public ignorance, apathy and fear.
If you don't know why the USA was founded, how the government was supposed to work, how to protect your rights, that you are the leaders, not the folks in DC, how will you know when your rights have been infringed? Remember, that is the threshold, not screaming when they have been taken, but when they have been infringed.

Allowing your ignorance and apathy to lead you down a path that says that it's someone else's fault. Whether you think it's the Jews, the socialists, the left, the right, lizard people, or what have you... it's not. It's your fault.

No one can take anything from you unless you allow them to. Either through fear or ignorance, the central banks have been allowed to take us from a wealth based (gold) currency, to a 110% debt based currency. The gov't has been allowed to infringe every last one of our rights, at least the ones that stand in the way of tyranny. The corporations have been given more access to our elected representatives than we have.

2) No representation. We have been fooled into thinking we have some form of control over Our gov't through voting and conditioned to think that that is where it ends for Our participation (beyond the occasional letter to a Rep). We have allowed ourselves to be conditioned to think that the people exist for the benefit of the corporation instead of the corporation existing for the benefit of the people. We have been duped into thinking that they ultimately have our best interest in mind as they lobby to have our pensions raided, ability to file bankruptcy (in a debt based economy) reduced, etc.

3) Partisanship over your fellow countrymen.
We have been so divided in this country by the mistaken belief that loyalty to ones party is more important than solidarity as a nation of free people in opposition to gov't misdeeds. The corporations and special interests, the money managers and speculators, the foreign interests are positively giddy at the fact that there is no possible way for the people to unite as one against them or their policies. Policies which are beyond self serving, but designed to reduce the average American to an obedient servant of their "leaders". WE the PEOPLE are the leaders. In order to lead, we must find consensus. Which means finding common ground to fix the truly important issues, while setting aside our bickering differences long enough to achieve them. This does not mean that issues like abortion, rights for this group or that, gun laws, and many others are not important. They are. But We are at a point now where they must take a TEMPORARY back seat to the common issues that we can all agree on. Namely, the restoration of our rights, monetary system, ending Our status as second class citizens to the corporate citizen, and control over Our gov't.

Honestly, until those things are handled, none of the other issues will ever rise above instruments for our self-proclaimed "leaders" to get votes.

4) Absence of vigilance.
The founders and many at the birth of this country paid a heavy price for their independence. My family lost over a dozen people during the war of independence. All they asked of their progeny is that they preserve their hard fought and hard one freedoms by remaining vigilant. Vigilant of what you ask? TYRANNY! Tyranny SEEKS POWER. Always has, Always will. Some seek political power, some economic power. The point is, tyranny has been the rule of history in every age... until the birth of this nation. For the first time in the history of the world... a man could truly call his home his castle of which he was the sovereign king. He was free, independent and sovereign unto himself (sorry ladies, or herself).

We tend to think that our gov't is self policing, that tyranny couldn't possibly rise because we have a free republic. WRONG! The whole damn point of the founding of this country was to give the People the ability to police their own gov't. And we have abdicated that responsibility, that duty to those who we were meant to guard it from.

I am here to tell you that it doesn't matter if the Jews run the banks. The banks exist, we know what they have done, and we know they must be stopped or reformed. Stop the banks, let gov't issue the money and it doesnt matter who ran the banks, they are done (by banks I mean the privately owned central banks masquerading as a gov't agency), problem solved. It doesn't matter who runs the media. We know it's broken. So turn it off. The free press that was supposed to help us remain vigilant against gov't abuse and tyranny, but is no longer free to do it's job. It's controlled by the same interests that benefit that corps and pols. No other agency is more complicit in keeping us divided and unable to act against these transgressions as a single voice than the media and the corporations that advertise on them and own them.
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