Yep intel agency are not credible at all. This admin as made them propagda mouth peices.

Simple commn secne was al that was need to know this is a huge joke. ISrealis would be rolling tanks through the GOlan heights right now if there was even a hint of true devolpmetn of weapons in Syria.

I believe that catholics have the probability of going to heaven, but I do believe they have false doctrine. They believe that the way to heaven is through saying "Hail mary" and the like. Where as it is taught after the return of Jesus, the only way is through him. Not the pope, not the priest, but the son of God himself.

This is where I take up against the catholics. Don't you think you might actually get more of a benefit from an actual sincere prayer to Jesus, rather than repeating a persons name over and over again. Tell me, where in the Bible does it instruct you to do these confessionals as a way to seek forgiveness?

The catholic church is about power and control, always has been...

Yeah non catholic Americans are usually bigots words Catholics hell even smoe people raised catholci hate catholcis.. Baptists like to burn Catholic churches. Nothing new. This has what to do with Intelligence agency's?

Dunno, some dude brought it up on page one, dan or something.

arrgh. Its a big catholic bash. Well I guess the Intel agency's are all Catholics?? Huh well then why do so many Americans believe the intel. They hate Catholics.

Man, maybe I have no say being raised Catholic, but real Catholics are basically the archetype of humility before God. You see all this synchreticism in Afro-Brazilian stuff because Catholics believe, as Macumba do, that God is so great and so unreachable as we are, that there are intermediaries to whom we must often communicate instead. This makes problems with the stupid idea that the papacy could fit the bill there, but even in the old days of pissed-off, big cheese God, there was a guy named Metatron who organized his memos, even though a prophet or two got fucked by confusing him with the real deal. Also, I agree with 'nefarious plot', this is so damn irrelevant it makes my head hurt.

Catholicism is a false doctrine: Catholic doctrine contradicts the Bible!!!

I usually refer to it as "The cult of Mary"

Pope John Paul did speak out on the against the war in Iraq but it doesnt mean he is against it. People lie....including the pope .

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Well, catho fails because of its continued elevation of it's papacy, and lowering of Jesus. Meh, I'm tired you get the point, they try to replace Jesus with the pope. There, done, said.

Most Afro-Brasillians are Christian. Your idea of communicating with intermediaries goes against the Bible and all of Christianity. If Catholicism were not Christian based then your idea would be fine. Now you know why it is a false doctrine.

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Intermediaries or idols? I've gotten this schpiel from a Mormon boy before when I said, heretically apparently, that God sent the whale to focus Jonah's prayer, and be the church he could not escape from. My idea was that Jonah was running and hiding, and God's message is that he is what we run to, what we shelter in. The mormon stated that the church was the congregation, and when I said that Jonah as a recluse was the only church he had afforded, he said that this would make the whale an idol. That was the point where I said 'Well, I'm Catholic.' and pussied out, but I think there is a distinct difference between worship and communication, glory and request, fundamental sin and process. The saints and Mary are not gods before God, he is simply the God behind them all. I'll look into the actual forum on this for some answers.