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03-22-2008, 12:01 PM
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The issue of statism in historic Palestine.
I think this is an issue that should have been resolved last millennium.
Simply recognizing another State in historic Palestine could solve some of the basis for conflict in that region.
With the issue of statism resolved, the UN could help that new State with economic development assistance and could establish another stable market in our global economy. Israel could be improving its standard of living along with a stable trading partner next door.
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03-23-2008, 09:51 AM
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Israel, needs to start freeing up the Market and Privatizing Land and Industry if they want to move forward. Zionism keeps Israel down, if you ask me. They need to stop suckling off the teet of Europe and America and realize they are more than capable of maintaning a Military without us. Of which, I feel Israel could have an even stronger military without America.
Thats my two cents.
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03-23-2008, 12:38 PM
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How does that solve the issue of statism in historic Palestine?
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03-24-2008, 02:03 PM
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Etatism is what you refer to, if not than you don't know the term of it. Statism or Etatism means the insistance on Government intervention in most aspects of daily lives.
Zionism, being a very, very statist ideology. If Israel castes off the shackles of Zionism, they would undoubtedly make peace with the Arabs, and Palestine would do well to either form a Nation with the Jews and move towards a free market economy. Which solves all.
Israel should do well to pay, fair reparations to the Arabs, as well. Especially for the land siezures, and property confiscations.
Your probably asking the wrong questions regarding Israel. As most people do.
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03-24-2008, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danielpalos
I think this is an issue that should have been resolved last millennium.
Simply recognizing another State in historic Palestine could solve some of the basis for conflict in that region.
With the issue of statism resolved, the UN could help that new State with economic development assistance and could establish another stable market in our global economy. Israel could be improving its standard of living along with a stable trading partner next door.
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Israel wants the land....you improve the standard of living of Israel with your taxe money.
Canadians are on te way.....to the Stanley Cup
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03-24-2008, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by satv365
Etatism is what you refer to, if not than you don't know the term of it. Statism or Etatism means the insistance on Government intervention in most aspects of daily lives.
Zionism, being a very, very statist ideology. If Israel castes off the shackles of Zionism, they would undoubtedly make peace with the Arabs, and Palestine would do well to either form a Nation with the Jews and move towards a free market economy. Which solves all.
Israel should do well to pay, fair reparations to the Arabs, as well. Especially for the land siezures, and property confiscations.
Your probably asking the wrong questions regarding Israel. As most people do.
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You are welcome to your obsolete view of statism. I present the term "statism" as a form of states' rights and doctrine. From that perspective, statism merely has to do with how states interact with their populace and with other sovereign states. As you can tell, my view is not limited in scope to serve a self-serving purpose.
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03-25-2008, 06:33 AM
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Quote:
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You are welcome to your obsolete view of statism. I present the term "statism" as a form of states' rights and doctrine. From that perspective, statism merely has to do with how states interact with their populace and with other sovereign states. As you can tell, my view is not limited in scope to serve a self-serving purpose.
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Than you are either bad at English, or do not own a dictionary. You are looking for the words, Domestic and Foreign Policies....
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03-25-2008, 06:34 AM
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Statism: The concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry.
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03-25-2008, 06:56 AM
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Than you are either bad at English, or do not own a dictionary. You are looking for the words, Domestic and Foreign Policies....
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I still haven't heard a cogent rebuttal to de facto recognition or a convention on unification.
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03-25-2008, 06:59 AM
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Statism: The concentration of economic controls and planning in the hands of a highly centralized government often extending to government ownership of industry.
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If you want to quibble, I meant state-ism and its simpler meaning and relation to matters pertaining to States.
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